Is Pornography To Blame For Declining Sex In Relationships?
Posted by: Wendy Atterberry
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11:10AM, Wednesday February 17th 2010
Yesterday, the Daily Mail reported that sex for women over the age of 35 is rapidly declining — or, at least, people are more willing to admit to declining sex in their relationships than they used to be. Today, the same paper is suggesting this trend could be blamed on men’s increased preference for internet pornography over sex. “Twenty years ago, pornography was something you had to search out and buy,” says couples therapist, Paula Hall. “Now it’s on every home computer, and more and more men are ruining their sex lives as a result, because they can meet their desires without their wife. The ‘cartoon images’ of arousal and satisfaction in porn are also giving a whole generation of men ridiculously unreal expectations about what real sex is like. They become unable to be aroused without the extreme stimulation of pornographic images, and their idea of what women like in bed is also warped.”
Of course, we couldn’t have a discussion these days about anything without mentioning the recession, something Paula Hall says could also explain the declining libido in men. “Huge numbers of men have lost their jobs, and many more are worried about losing theirs, or have to work extra hard to make up the work that used to be done by those who are now redundant.” she says. “They go home to their wives with stress hormones coursing through their bodies, and they just can’t feel arousal under those circumstances.” But wait! That’s not all! You didn’t think we could discuss men’s declining libidos without somehow placing at least a little of the blame on women, did you? Hall says she’s “heard men complain that their wives have gained a lot of weight, that their bodies have changed too much, or that they ‘don’t make enough effort’ to wax their legs or make themselves sexually appealing in other ways.”
I jest, but I do think these men have a point. I’ve said it in some of my “Dear Wendy” columns and I’ll say it again here: Both men and women have a responsibility in a relationship to keep fit, take care of themselves, and put effort into making themselves sexually appealing to their partners. When we don’t, or when we, say, stop shaving our legs in the winter because it’s “not worth the time,” should we really be blaming men if they get their rocks off on porn instead? Of course, I’m not suggesting the only reason men lose interest in sex and increasingly turn to porn is because their partners have stopped putting effort into their appearance, but I do think it’s part of the problem — along with complex issues within their relationship, too. What are your thoughts? [via Daily Mail]
Tags: love advice, libido, sexual activity

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ootie
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 5:21 PM
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God, Wendy loves any opportunity to mention the importance of staying attractive. I don't disagree, but damn.
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*sam*
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 5:29 PM
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I'm sorry, but does this woman have a study to back all of these assumptions on? Until I see some data, I'm not convinced.[quote]The cartoon images of arousal and satisfaction in porn are also giving a whole generation of men ridiculously unreal expectations about what real sex is like.They become unable to be aroused without the extreme stimulation of pornographic images, and their idea of what women like in bed is also warped.[/quote]please, give me a break. I'm fairly young (23) and when it came time for me to lose my v-card in high school, the guys my age were well acquainted with internet porn. And yet, none of the people I've ever slept with have had "unreal expectations" or been unable to perform without "the extreme stimulation of of [porn]." I'm not saying that my personal experience dictated truth for everyone, but come on! Bottom line: If you don't have data to back up your story, keep your best guesses to yourself until you do. There's enough idiots out there already.
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CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 5:31 PM
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Hormones in food. Medications. I blame fake tits, makeup, dumbass behavior, everything that makes this world vain...
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hlnbabe
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 5:32 PM
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I've had a few guys try things and had to tell them, "I know this move is from porn. This does not actually get a girl off. No, thank you."
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Singularity
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 5:32 PM
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No, I don't think pornography is to blame. It's an easy target, but aside from a small number of very disturbed individuals, I can't see how porn is ever going to actually lure men away from sex. They might [i]turn to it[/i] if there is already something missing in their relationship, but that doesn't make it the cause.Assuming this trend is even real of course - I have my doubts...
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titsmagee
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 5:35 PM
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My boyfriend watches porn every time I leave him alone in the house.Seriously.And we have sex every day. Maybe this causes different results in different people, but it's not hurting us. But i wonder, is it a new concept that people have sex less as they progress in age and/or relationships?
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adubb8791
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 5:38 PM
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These guys are complaining that their wives bodies have changed too much? Give me a break...they themselves are probably pudgy geezers who think that they too deserve to be pleasured by some blond, plastic barbie-doll and can only score her from beind a computer screen. If they hadn't also let themselves go, they wouldn't be beating it to internet porn, but having an affair instead.
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hlnbabe
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 5:40 PM
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@titsmagee: haha. of course it's a new concept. people stop having sex the longer they're in relationships? that's never happened before.
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tk_2009
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 5:43 PM
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This is pretty dubious stuff. There is no way to verify any of it without a control group and some sort of metric to compare the past against the present, the existence of which is unlikely. Porn that distorts a healthy image of sex (assuming there is one gold standard, which there isn't) is kind of a chicken/egg thing anyway, meaning: is it there because someone went looking for it and created demand or is it there creating the demand? I would say that most of what is out there exists because people want it, meaning that the only thing that has changed is availability. Any man who has had sex and enjoyed it doesn't think porn is better, because it isn't. As singularity said it's a substitute, but unless it's a case of addiction it's not going to make men want real sex less.
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Singularity
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 5:53 PM
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@tk_2009Agreed, this is an extremely difficult trend to attempt to measure, and I am highly suspicious of the claims being made here. And you are quite right, it is virtually impossible to determine in any case whether a person first turned to porn because of a problem, or turned to it and [i]created[/i] a problem.No, I still don't believe it, there is no way porn is going to pull men away from real sex unless they already have a serious problem to begin with.
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spooticus
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 6:00 PM
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i think young men learn more about sex and women online and from porn (where it is a business) than from sex ed, and actual women. i mean the internet is easier, it's always there, and it won't laugh at you when you search for odd requests.when the woman you actually get to be with is pale, has normal sized tits and ass, has hair other than only on her head and doesn't cum instantly (with squirting) from being bent in half and jackhammering... i guess it must be disappointing.sorry guys... you only get to cum just about every time anyway, must be so freaking hard on you.
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tk_2009
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 6:06 PM
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@spooticus: I doubt any well adjusted young man would ever be disappointed by the chance to have sex with a real woman. I think it's a rare minority of men who have actually had (good) sex who still think that most porn is anything but contrived nonsense. Sure there are some things that seem like they might be legit, but if you aren't dealing with larger issues it's pretty much acknowledged that porn is unrealistic fantasy land. Most of the myths instilled by it get dispelled pretty quickly when it comes to going at it in real life. Unless you're an inconsiderate, immature jackass. In that case I don't think porn will make much difference either way.
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og217
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 6:07 PM
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I don't think porn is the reason sex declines in a relationship. I think in a declining relationship the guys turn to porn. Than they may carry the porn into the next relationship and ruin that one with their incessant porn watching. And I agree with Wendy - if women let themselves go and then try to hammer into their husband that its normal to have sex once a month and its normal to get fat and its normal to treat him and his desire like a ridiculous, childish nuisance the men will need a fantasy life to make their real one bearable.
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meredith806
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 6:12 PM
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I agree, I don't think its feasible to blame all of this on porn. I'm sure some men (most likely younger, inexperienced men) have some warped views of how women should look/behave in bed due to porn, but if I may give them the benefit of the doubt, I would think they would figure it out eventually.Cheeeese: yes it is alllllll on the fake tits. Evil big boobs. ;-)Sidenote: my boyfriend REFUSES to watch porn with a guy in it. He doesn't watch much to begin with, but when he does its strictly girl on girl. I asked him about it a long time ago to which he responded "uh..ew, I don't want to see another guys dick. Gross." So the hetero porn is left for me to watch. Which brings up the question if males can get unreal expectations from porn, couldn't females as well? I mean, not all men have 9 inchers ;-)
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danny braciole
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 6:12 PM
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@spooticus: You forgot to mention that porn is never bitter and sarcastic.[quote]sorry guys you only get to cum just about every time anyway, must be so freaking hard on you. [/quote]Oh wait, nevermind.
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AnitaBath
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 6:13 PM
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When most men look at porn, aren't they wishing they were having sex? It seems like most men would take an actual vagina over their hand and a screen if they had the choice. I know there are some people who are addicted to porn and whatnot, but I don't think porn is typically chosen over actual sex when the option is available. If they're not having sex and their sex life is declining, I think other factors, not porn, is to blame.
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Kathls
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 6:14 PM
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@spoot: I totally agree. There are a lot of guys out there with a 'warped' since of reality, as in what women really look like and how they behave in bed. The last guy I was with found it really frustrating that I didn't have orgasms during sex or would start to but the timing was just off. He said I was a 'tough customer' :), but the only thing I think when he says that is, 'dude, surely every girl you've been with does not orgasm every time ... if that's the case, there's faking going on'.
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marriedguyY2K
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 6:14 PM
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I'm a happily married man, with two kids and a busy life. My wife and I have sex once a week, if not more. The fact that I look at porn on the internet and masterbate regularly has no bearing on our sex life, or either of our expectations in bed. By and large, men have a greater sex drive than women. We masterbate because it releases stress, feels good, and allows us to not feel like we NEED sex daily. My wife loves sex, but not every day, and appreciates that I take care of myself from time to time. That actually allows her to not feel like she needs to be prepared for sex constantly. If anything, it is a relief to her. Porn leads to unrealstic expectations in only to insecure or unrealistic people.
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AnitaBath
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 6:15 PM
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[quote]Which brings up the question if males can get unreal expectations from porn, couldnt females as well? I mean, not all men have 9 inchers[/quote]Haha, seriously! I feel like I don't even know what average size is. I've seen very few peens in real life, and I'm pretty sure all the ones in porn aren't average. I think it's a double standard. I know men stereotypically watch porn more than women, but no one's ever complaining about how porn gives women unreal expectations or takes them away from their husband's bed.
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AnitaBath
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 6:16 PM
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Oh, damn, I just admitted to watching porn on the interwebs, and after my identity has been revealed to. *sigh* Oh well, I'm sure I've admitted worse stuff.
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bumbler
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 6:21 PM
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I've had female friends complain about some of the guys they meet expecting porn-esque sex. They also date idiots so there's always that.
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AngelofMusic
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 6:31 PM
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@anitabathyou crack me up lol
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tabby
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 6:31 PM
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[quote]The last guy I was with found it really frustrating that I didnt have orgasms during sex or would start to but the timing was just off. He said I was a tough customer smile, but the only thing I think when he says that is, dude, surely every girl youve been with does not orgasm every time ... if thats the case, theres faking going on.[/quote]Also true. I'm not going to hate on porn, but it does create this false world where every woman effortlessly has not just one orgasm, but often many orgasms every single time. In reality? Not so much. And guys take it so darn personal when it just isn't going to happen, I think due to the unrealistic expectations that are reinforced through porn. You are not less of a man/lover/boyfriend if I don't get off everytime, especially when you are trying really hard. Newsflash men of the world: Not every woman gets off like a porn star.
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tk_2009
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 6:33 PM
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Yeah, I don't think there is any evidence that these attitudes didn't exist before porn became 90% of the internet. I think the real issue is with men who are too ignorant to take the time and find out what is really going on with the person they are sleeping with. Porn, like so many other things, is a fantasy. How much you buy in to it and how much you need it has more to do with how you are as a person that it does with the fantasy itself.
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Queen Frostine
wrote on February 17, 2010 @ 6:36 PM
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In movies men drive luxury sports cars through public places, shooting automatic weapons and nukes into crowds of people, killing bad cops, robbing casinos, breaking laws and blowing things up. In porn, people ALSO do a lot of crazy, over the top things for the adrenaline rush, the erotic thrill and the shock factor. While neither are essentially wrong, they are both strictly for entertainment purposes. They are both designed to thrill us and maybe encourage us to be a bit more badass or sexually adventurous, but they aren't really supposed to be taken from the screen and reenacted at home. Just because Neo shoots a bunch of cops to get to Morpheus in the Matrix doesn't mean we should shoot cops too. Although we are free to wear all the black PVC body suits and futuristic sunglasses we want, if it helps us channel that ideal.
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