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Louis C.K. did terrible grabbing, pushing, forced kissing and more to a lady on his teevee program “Louie” and everyone was freaked out. He tried to drag her into a bedroom and it was disturbing and I can’t watch the whole clip all at once because it makes me feel weird inside in an uncomfortable fashion, and not just because fanfuckingtastic Pamela Adlon was the voice of my beloved Bobby on “King of the Hill.” Jezebel has a good thing about it that you can read and ponder.
I do not like seeing this Comedy Hero pretend-attempt to rape a lady, which is probably good, because if I were into that sort of thing, I should probably be in even more therapy. Anyway, I think “Louie” starts important conversations on important things, and it’s the closest thing we presently have to the socially conscious sitcoms of the ’70s and early ’80s (and also “Roseanne,” thank you very much) and that is why we’re talking about it right now. Keep reading »
“Louie, you know what the meanest thing is you can say to a fat girl? ‘You’re not fat.’ I mean, come on, buddy. It just sucks. It really really sucks. You have no idea. And the worst part is, I’m not even supposed to do this. Tell anyone how bad it sucks, because it’s too much for people. I mean, you, you can talk into the microphone and say you can’t get a date, you’re overweight. It’s adorable. But if I say it, they call the suicide hotline on me. I mean, can I just say it? I’m fat. It sucks to be a fat girl. Can people just let me say it? It sucks. It really sucks. And I’m going to go ahead and say it. It’s your fault.
Look, I really like you, you’re truly a good guy, I think. I’m so sorry. I’m picking you. On behalf of all the fat girls, I’m making you represent all the guys. Why do you hate us so much? What is is about the basics of human happiness, feeling attractive, feeling loved, having guys chase after us, that’s just not in the cards for us? Nope. Not for us. How is that fair? And why am I supposed to just accept it?”
This is an excerpt of an amazing speech given by actress Sarah Baker, who plays Vanessa, Louis CK’s potential love interest on this week’s episode of “Louie.” Vanessa is a smart, funny, ebullient waitress who just happens to be fat, which makes Louie hesitant to start a relationship with her. Him sheepishly muttering, “You’re not fat” sets off one of the most honest, vulnerable discussions of weight and dating I’ve ever seen on a TV show. Watch the whole scene above, and read this great interview with Sarah for some behind-the-scenes insights on the episode. [Via Jezebel]
The season four premiere of “Louie” is still five months off. But we can content ourselves with a little bit of Louie C.K. — well, parts of him, anyway — in these funny mashups on the Tumblr Louis CK One. Each one spoofs the traditional style of a sexy CK One ad with Louis CK-ian imagery. Like, you know, his cute pudgy belly. [Louis CK One]
Louis C.K. fans like myself groaned after the whole Daniel Tosh rape joke incident so we’re relieved it was a misunderstanding and that C.K. is at least slightly more feminist-minded. In an article at Slate, David Haglund writes about Louis C.K.’s new HBO special, which includes what some people are calling C.K.’s “feminist rape joke“:
Halfway through the new special, C.K. starts talking about how dating is an act of bravery for all involved. “The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask” a woman out. (Note the careful caveat, “traditionally speaking.”) And if the woman says yes, “that’s her courage.” That kind of courage, he says, is beyond his imagining. “How do women still go out with guys, when you consider that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number one threat to women! Globally and historically, we’re the number one cause of injury and mayhem to women.” A moment later he adds, speaking for all men, “You know what our number one threat is? Heart disease.”
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Wouldn’t it be funny if the boys that photographed themselves assaulting Savannah Dietrich got raped right now? Also, that priest, Monsignor Lynn, who is going to serve three to six years for failing to investigate sex abuse claims against priests — wouldn’t it be hilarious if he were raped in prison? And Jerry Sandusky? Just picture him in the showers with a bunch of bigger guys! Are you laughing? No? Well, that’s because imagining someone getting raped is about as humorous as imagining someone stepping on a landmine or getting car-jacked. It’s terrifying and no one deserves it.
But using rape in a joke is another story. A couple of years ago, I taught a writing course at The New School called Humor and Controversy. The premise was that humor artists like Margaret Cho, Chris Rock, and Sarah Silverman speak with more insight and honesty about race, sexuality, reproductive rights, gender, religion, and class than most politicians, which is why comedy is important. Students were encouraged to use wit and self-deprecation to shed light on thorny issues. One prompt was to write an essay entitled “My Rape Fantasy.” Keep reading »
Louis C.K. just got 100 percent lamer, in my opinion. I just watched this rape joke reel put together by the feminist org, the Women’s Media Center, to show that Daniel Tosh’s not-funny rape joke last week was not an abheration to comedy. (You can read the whole backstory here.) Tosh has made plenty of other not-funny rape jokes in the past and both Dave Chapelle and Louis C.K. — who came to Tosh’s defense on Twitter — have wasted some precious comedy capital as well. As the WMC puts it, these are all rape jokes that comedians make for cheap laughs. They do nothing to make a statement about our culture. I hope that one day Louis’ daughters grow up and ask him, “Daddy, why were you making jokes about rape?” (Daniel Tosh, you can kindly not procreate, kthx.) [Women's Media Center] (Put your headphones on at work, because the audio is NSFW.)
[Personally, I think most of these jokes are being presented out of context. Some of them -- having seen them in full context -- are actually "good" rape jokes in my opinion, while others are cheap. Kind of hard to judge their quality when taken out of context though. Or, as George Carlin's voice references at the end, out of their full construct. -- Editor]
“Tracy Morgan said something wrong, evil, cruel, ignorant and hilarious. He was on a comedy stage, not a pulpit. It is clear to anyone with an ability to reason and understand people that he didn’t mean a word of what he said. He was fucking around. I think the opportunity that was lost was for the gay community to ask Tracy, ‘Why did you say that?’ and ‘What was your dad like?’ and ‘What is being a man mean to you?’ you know what I mean? It could have been a starting point of a conversation that might have actually made a difference in how people feel about homophobia.”
Anyone who loves Louis C.K.‘s standup or his amazing FX show “Louie” knows the comedian pushes the envelope of good taste yet always has a point when he does so. (For example, the joke about how if child molestations was considered “less bad,” child molesters wouldn’t kill so many children and might return them to their parents. Which is like … damn, you went there.) Louis C.K. has come to Tracy Morgan’s defense over the incident this spring when the “30 Rock” star joked on a Nashville stage that gay bullying is bullshit and if his own son was gay he would pull out a knife and stab him. I honestly, genuinely, don’t find any of that humorous, I can’t say that I agree with Louis C.K. on the humor aspect here. But he does have a point about about how having a conversation about homophobic jokes or attitudes — or sexist ones, or racist ones — is probably more useful than shrill shrieks for an apology. What do y’all think? [Queerty]