Will Not Wack For Jesus

_jsw_
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 10:46 am: [report]

I’m wondering if sex dolls and male prostitutes are off the list, since he didn’t rule either out. Also, I’m curious if inadvertently seeing a hot chick picking up dog poop in front of his house would cause him to explode.

majicksand
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 10:49 am: [report]

Extremists bug me.  I thought it was cool that he chose to quit a band that he loved because he realized it was a bad environment in which to raise his daughter, but now he’s just loopy.  I don’t believe being raised by a religious fanatic is much better than being surrounded by meth-heads.  In both cases the people are loony-tunes and potentially dangerous.

PotteryGirl
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 10:49 am: [report]

Note to Brian:  Some things are better not shared!  (hehe)

spatula
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 10:50 am: [report]

Loopy, indeed. Extremists totally creep me out too.

CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 10:52 am: [report]

@_jsw_: Or two couch cushions for that matter.

effing hickster
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 10:52 am: [report]

Going to those extremes may work for you, my good man, but the hairdo definitely does not.

Pinky
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 11:01 am: [report]

This is between him and God, why do we need to know this Brian ? He thinks he is being a good “example” of how God can change a persons life for the positive…but the implication and message he is sending implies you are not a good Christian if you have *normal* sexual urges (which God has given a human) and you find self release. Save the self righteous lecture Brian and go help the homeless. WWJD !

JustTrinity
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 11:06 am: [report]

He’s not an extremeist… he’s just doing what he believes. And I find that awesome!
He’s doing what is best, and you judge him for it?
Would it be better if he had been with many women?
Because that would be, what people call “normal”?

That thought just sickens me.
Its said where society is going.
In fact, I can honestly say that I am proud of him.

majicksand
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 11:11 am: [report]

@trinity: Do you have JESUS tattooed on your knuckles to keep yourself from masturbating?

CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 11:14 am: [report]

@JustTrinity: Biased much? Your handle gives you away toots.

Queen Frostine
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 11:16 am: [report]

While I support the saying “to each their own path”, I can’t see how repressing your natural human instincts and denying the talents that god gave you can help you lead a better life.

CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 11:17 am: [report]

@majicksand: Dating Dealbreaker: Jesus Tattoos.

PotteryGirl
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 11:22 am: [report]

@JustTrinity - I don’t know that most posters here are condemning him for what he’s doing.  But what he and his peepee do together (or don’t do together) should be none of my business.  This kind of sharing is sanctimonious bragging and nothing more.  It’s a “hey, look how religious I am!”.

effing hickster
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 11:23 am: [report]

@CheeeeEEEEse: And Jesus bumper stickers…and Jesus clothing…etc.

GreenAura
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 11:23 am: [report]

He said that this is what works for him, so what’s the problem?  He’s not saying “you have to be like this too”, so let the guy be.

PotteryGirl
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 11:26 am: [report]

Because, GreenAura - he chose to make it public, thereby inviting comment.

Christinaval
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 11:26 am: [report]

LOL…would we be discussing this if say, it had something to do with Islam? or Buddhism? Or Hinduism??? I think not. For some reason we have tolerance for every other religion besides Christianity. I just don’t find this extremist…people get cross tattoos and Jesus tattoos all the time. And if his had a greater purpose, WHO CARES??? Peoples judgement disgusts me.

retro chic
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 11:27 am: [report]

Ben stiller would be great in a spoof of him.

OK, so KoRn-grinder is your garden-variety recovering addict who yet again found Jesus which seems to require other extremes of behavior?

effing hickster
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 11:36 am: [report]

@Christinaval: I have a problem with any organized religion that claims they have a direct hotline to God, and that it’s their way or the highway. Palin and Bachmann included.

CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 11:37 am: [report]

@Christinaval: Actually I thing he would be deader than they wanted Salman Rushdie if he got the prophet Muhammed on him.

majicksand
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 11:39 am: [report]

1. It’s obnoxious when people ‘proclaim’ their great faith as though they deserve a prize.  Even worse are the ones who use religion as a justification for their lives and a weapon against everyone else’s simultaneously.

2. We pass plenty of (well deserved, imo) judgement on others religions when they do extreme things.  Like, say, I don’t know, crash planes into buildings killing thousands of innocent people?  This isn’t on that level obviously, but don’t put your business out there if you don’t want people to have an opinion.

3. Under the rules of regular Christian faith (much less the extremists), just about all of us are going to hell anyway.  I’ve met more so called ‘good’ Christians who were lousy people than I care to count.

bumbler
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 11:43 am: [report]

You stole my Jesus fish!

Riley
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 11:45 am: [report]

Knuckle children + Jesus = Error!

_jsw_
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 11:50 am: [report]

I think that “Jesus Tattoos” sounds like the title of a work of art, painted in a way reminiscent of the old masters, depicting Jesus working the needle gun.

I also think that Jesus would think it was stupid to tattoo his name on your hands as well as stupid to not masturbate.

And finally, if you really don’t want to masturbate, don’t tattoo “Jesus” on your fingers. Tattoo a picture of Rush Limbaugh on your penis.

CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 11:54 am: [report]

@Riley: Nice one.

retro chic
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 11:55 am: [report]

@majicksand: your views are shared, obviously, but, these people are predisposed to being hypnotized anyway: be it extremes of religion or other mind-altering substances. There is no neutral or balance for them. So, the rest of us are stuck with what (I say cautiously) is the lesser of two evils… Except when there’s killing people at abortion clinics or en masse, as you said.

I still say there’s a movie-theme here somewhere.

CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 11:55 am: [report]

@jsw: You have just physically damaged my mind. I will never get that image out of there. Noooooo!

majicksand
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 12:05 pm: [report]

@jsw: I just choked on gourmet candycorn.  First thought: Eww!  Then just laughter.  Now back to blackberry cobbler candycorn.  You know how I love blackberry cobbler!

effing hickster
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 12:16 pm: [report]

@majicksand: You’re making me salivate.

I used to have a blackberry bush in my backyard as a kid. I always had purple fingers.

GreenAura
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 12:22 pm: [report]

@ PotteryGirl:  Are we just assuming that he came out of left field with that comment?  Did it ever cross anyone’s mind that perhaps he was asked to divulge such personal information?  Maybe he was asked “How has your religious devotion affected your sex life?”  Should we bash and judge him for being truthful?  No wonder people lie.  Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.  My thoughts are that as long as he doesn’t touch kids or rape women, WHO GIVES A SH!T?

majicksand
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 12:28 pm: [report]

@hickster: Walmart halloween candy aisle.  I got creme brulee as well. Yum!  You can only eat a few at a time though.  They are sickeningly sweet.

effing hickster
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 12:32 pm: [report]

“So, you have Jesus tattooed on your fingers. Is it because of your faith?”

“The Jesus tattoo on my hand keeps me from masturbating and I haven’t been with a woman since my ex-wife left me almost five years ago. I go to those extremes to be like Christ and it works for me.”

“Um, that was a yes or no question.”

pragmatryst
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 12:39 pm: [report]

@effing hickster: “and Jesus clothing”

So Welch went from knee-deep in groupies to “All Day I Dream About Slacks”?  I’m not buying it.

majicksand
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 12:42 pm: [report]

I know a guy who is a serial addict.  He does everything to the extreme.  He has bounced between crackhead and holy-roller for years.  His issue isn’t drugs or religion—it’s addiction.  This situation strikes me as the same kind of thing.

brandyalexander
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 12:49 pm: [report]

Brian’s new drug of choice:
http://richarddawkins.net/article,122,Gerin-Oil,Richard-Dawkins

writergirl
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 12:54 pm: [report]

He’s an OCD Christian fanatic.

Do you think they have t-shirts?

GreenAura
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 01:06 pm: [report]

@ majick: great point!  Addicts will attach themselves to anything that appeals to them at the moment.  At least in Head’s case, it isn’t drugs anymore.

majicksand
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 01:11 pm: [report]

@greenaura: That was my point in my original post.

Pinky
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 01:25 pm: [report]

@Christinaval: “Peoples judgement disgusts me”

hmmmm…I believe HE may be doing some “judging” against people who chose to masturbate, implying its “sinful” and a sin” he has been “delivered” from thus making him super spiritual and better then us sinners. I believe Jesus said if you do your good deeds before men to get kudo’s and high acclaim (like the Pharisees) you have received your “reward” and will not recieve one from your Father. Is that his intent in his public comments, why else be public about his private sex thing. Believe me when I say I spent 15 years as one those fanatic Evangelical finger pointers and was guilty of it myself. I was judgemental and mean
( all the while saying it was just “the Lord’s Word” which gave me license to be so) and so were the others I hung with (the EV crowd) I have since seen the error of my way. I now say let God be the Judge not ME or the former Korn man. Its just this type who when they brag and then fall, ala Hagard, Baker, Swagagrt etc. give Jesus a bad name.

dudette
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 01:47 pm: [report]

I agree totally with GreenAura.  If it works for him thats great.  He didn’t say that it works for everyone or that it should.  Really just as people that don’t emulate Jesus should not be treated with disdain and neither should people that do.

retro chic
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 01:48 pm: [report]

@majicksand, @GreenAura: that was my original point, too – addiction (just forgot the pesky key word) – escaping from reality. Can’t own it on its own terms without avoiding or distorting it, and seem hard-wired for it.

SkepticalOne
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 02:12 pm: [report]

First of all, the majority of Korn’s music is social commentary as well as reflection on their own personal demons and hardships. I highly doubt anyone here has taken the time to read their lyrics or have listen/read about where they are coming from/purpose behind the music. Same applies to Mindless Self Indulgence. Look beyond the superficial folks.

Second, he didn’t just leave because the environment of the band was bad for raising his child. Many other band members in Korn have children who seem to be quite well adjusted and “normal.” He was actually the MAIN member who got into drugs and alcohol. It was his choices and his predisposition to addiction that go him to that point, not the band.

I sort of love how this is supposed to be a place of open-minded people when really, the judgment and self-righteousness oozes off the screen… Let’s try and not be hypocrites.

*sam*
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 02:19 pm: [report]

@skepticalone: HEY! I LOVED KoRn back in the day (and still do to a certain extent)!! That being said, I’m going to jump on the bandwagon and admit that Head’s extremist religious stance on life saddens me. Like others have pointed out, religion may very well be a means of simply replacing his drug addiction with another one. IMO, there should be therapy for all addicts, religious ones included.

cattgirl813
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 02:56 pm: [report]

How come you just know he’s the type that screams out “Oh God!” on those rare occasions he has sex?

_jsw_
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 02:59 pm: [report]

@cattgirl813: If it’s been that long since he’s had sex (the interview mentioned above was, I think, years ago), then I don’t think he’d have time for even the “Oh”. Due to the immediate O.

SkepticalOne
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 03:01 pm: [report]

@*sam*:

I also am a fan of Korn :-p.

I completely understand where you are coming from, however, he has not gone out and told anyone that this is how they should live their life, this is just how he lives his. As long as he is not negatively affecting those around him, he has the right to live the life he wants to without people passing judgment on his choices. Till this day, I’m still looking for a philosophy that stands by the idea “Stay out of my business and I’ll stay out of yours.” But alas I believe none exists. Too many people are too interested in imposing their beliefs/ideas/ideologies on others.

*sam*
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 03:07 pm: [report]

@SkepticalOne:
“Till this day, I’m still looking for a philosophy that stands by the idea “Stay out of my business and I’ll stay out of yours.” But alas I believe none exists. Too many people are too interested in imposing their beliefs/ideas/ideologies on others.”

that’s because it’s hard to feel justified in knowing you’re “right” if you agree that everyone else is too.

retro chic
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 03:14 pm: [report]

@SkepticalOne: so serious. He put out his POV in public, the public puts out theirs. I call mine an opinion, not a judgment or imposition for him to choose differently since he and we are unknown to each other.

And I think you’re right. No such philosophy that I’m aware is nosey-and-opinion-free. The good one’s, tho, say live and let live. There is a difference.

SkepticalOne
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 03:55 pm: [report]

@retro chic

Serious? Yes. Why? I just spent this weekend sardine packed in a metro car with tea party protesters in DC. And I mean SARDINE packed. I’m so stressed out about what I saw and heard that I can’t handle the slightest inclination of judgment from people.  I really think I’m suffering from post traumatic stress disorder.

retro chic
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 04:17 pm: [report]

@SkepticalOne: DC? Ugh. Say no more. DC on any day would be too much for me (LA, CA here). PTSD would not be a stretch in your case! At least consider *my* POV as just that, with no desire to inflict morality or change on anyone. But to your overall point? I agree. People should try harder to refrain.

effing hickster
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 04:23 pm: [report]

@SkepticalOne: I wish I could have gone to that march.

I would have carried a big, fat magic marker and corrected all the spelling and grammar mistakes for them, and then let them know that compulsory universal public education is a social program provided and regulated by federal, state, and local governments.

Next, I would ask them why they squandered such a precious resource…and then run for my life.

Stig
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 04:49 pm: [report]

Since when is deciding not to masturbate extremist? I think he’s to be commended for doing what he believes to be right.

CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 04:54 pm: [report]

@hickster: This guy did what you wanted to do, but got spat on

PotteryGirl
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 04:58 pm: [report]

@GreenAura - I don’t care if he was “asked” to divulge personal information.  You have control over what you say.  Just because a reporter asks, you can make a choice as to what you share and your masterbation habits (or lackthereof) are something that you should keep between and your right/left/both hand(s).

PotteryGirl
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 05:02 pm: [report]

@retro chic - you have NO idea what you are missing.  DC rocks!

SkepticalOne
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 05:27 pm: [report]

@retrochic:

I knew where you were coming from and I agree. I’ve just been in a constant state of panic.:-(

@retrochic and effing hickster:

It was seriously the scariest thing I have ever experienced in my entire life. Its one thing to see that stuff on CNN or the five o’clock news, get upset and then move on but to literally have been eye to eye, elbow to elbow with such blatantly ignorant and in many instances, violent people is a whole other level of WTF.

The woman behind me was screaming about how Sarah Palin was right (a major red flag) while she held on to her 6 year old daughters hand who was holding a sign of Obama with a big ole’ swastika over him (can we say indoctrination?).

So to all: Please excuse my intensity…Im really trying to get over this mess…Its sites such as this and my boyfriend that has literally kept me from buying a one way ticket back home to Jamaica.

lawyrgrl
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 05:49 pm: [report]

@SkepticalOne You must have some SERIOUS self control.  I like to think that I am an adult and in control of myself but I honestly don’t know if I could have kept from getting into a ...shall we say “heated debate?”....with those idiots.  Kudos to you.  I recommend a stiff drink and the constant company of intelligent and open-minded people for at least 48 hours.

retro chic
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 06:04 pm: [report]

@PotteryGirl – You’re right, I don’t… now! Haven’t been in years. But my attorney friends do a lot of Fed work setting up War Rooms and remark on, naturally, the unfun side. It’s exciting, tho, I’ll say that!

retro chic
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 06:15 pm: [report]

@SkepticalOne: Yeah, scary (that still shocks)! I definitely second @lawyrgrl’s stiff drink recommendation and the time-out from rabid idiots, ie, a detox-with-benefits. Visit the rest of the States, too if you haven’t already.

effing hickster
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 07:12 pm: [report]

@CheeeeEEEEse, SkepticalOne, lawyrgrl, and retro chic (and _jsw_, if you’re perusing):

I think I won’t be outing anyone by saying this in an edited manner, so here goes…

I am the sensitive, liberal, artistic son of an ex-preacher who participated in the civil rights march on Washington when Martin Luther King Jr. spoke. I was bused to a desegregated school as a child, and have had relationships with at least three women who are not of my race (white). My youngest brother has had a 10 year relationship with a woman who is not of our race. So you see where I stand on civil rights in this country.

However, I have an older brother who is a conservative, racist, gun-toting, alcoholic who happens to be a high-ranking executive at a major manufacturing company based in the U.S. How he got there I don’t know, but he seems to be high-functioning despite his faults. We have never had a good relationship, and I decided to end contact with him about 20 years ago. He still tries to call me up now and then to tell me what a disappointment I am.

I’ve been unemployed for a little while, and have been looking for work, so I have been accepting unemployment insurance and food stamps for the time being. I believe this is my right, as it is any person who is a citizen of our country. After all, I’ve been paying taxes for 26 years now.

I got a telephone call from him in the middle of the night about a month ago. I suspect he’d been drinking, as he usually is when he decides to call.

“So dad tells me you’re looking for work.”
“Yeah.”
“What happened?”
“My boss was trying to pay me below the minimum wage limit for the State, so I was forced to quit because he refused to give me a raise. I reported him.”
(the boss actually called me a greedy motherf***er)
“Are you taking food stamps?”
“Yeah. So? I need to eat.”
“You need to get a job.”
(I think I know that already)
“Did you vote for that Obama n****r?”
“I’m hanging up. Don’t call me again.”
“That Obama n****r is leading us down a path to socialism.”
*click*

So you can see what I’ve had to put up with for the last 42 years. My dad thinks maybe there’s a chemical imbalance in his system or something, but it still can’t explain how he hasn’t been exposed yet, unless he has enablers to assist him. He’s pretty convinced that God is on his side.
I’ve always been a rational person who never really felt like getting involved with politics. I even turned down the chance to attend Boy’s State in high school because I figured I’d rather pursue an art career.

So now you know where I stand. In the same family as a conservative wingnut who’s helping steer the capitalist tour bus. I’m pretty sure Glenn Beck would have a field day with me.

DancingGeek
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 07:18 pm: [report]

@jsw- I think I ruptured my spleen laughing at the Rush Limbaugh comment!

IMHO The twelve step program is just trading one addiction for another, (I’ve known many in my own family) and while it is possibly a less destructive addiction, it still has all the qualities.

It’s terrific for him and his kid that he’s clean, but does he have so little self control he needs to tattoo something on his fingers so as to not forget not to wax his carrot?

And does the whole world need to know.  Religion is a personal thing so KEEP IT TO YOUR DAMNED SELF!!!!!

PotteryGirl
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 07:32 pm: [report]

@effing hickster - so…what’s your point?  Because what your post just said to me was the same as “i was mugged by a black guy and all african americans are therefore criminals”.  We all have nutjobs in our family.  I have a cousin who refuses to commute 10 miles to get a job, spounges off the government and is a fan of Al Gore.  Am I to draw from this experience that all environmentalists are lazy, non-working slobs?  NO.  I’m to draw that my cousin likes to watch tv all day and not work.

I’m pretty sure Glenn Beck would have a field day with you ONLY becuase you like to stereotype and be judgemental.  Step outside your own experience for two minutes and look around.

And to anyone else who bitched about the tea party this weekend - it is THEIR right to complain and picket, just like it is YOUR right.  That’s one of the most amazing things about living in the US and one of the reasons I love about living in DC.  There are marches and demonstrations just about every weekend and it’s a wonderful pictorial of where I live and why I’m happy to do so.

CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 07:46 pm: [report]

@hickster: You’ve been through a lot, but seriously dude, you’re old. Sorry, I have to make light of everything I come across, just keep your head high.

retro chic
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 07:53 pm: [report]

@PotteryGirl: I didn’t get from the posts, mine incl, that anyone (maybe one) was disallowing others’ rights, just that it sounded intense and runs counter to much of politics/beliefs here. I think we can all stip that everyone has the right to picket… and also the right to their own opinions about its cause. I live in a metropolis, too, and see a lot of demos. I know I don’t like it when people piss on LA, so I understand the pride in the city you live in and love.

SkepticalOne
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 08:05 pm: [report]

@potterygirl

I also live and go to school in DC and I do in fact enjoy being here. But this is not the issue at hand in regards to this spin off of the topic.

Of course these individuals had a right to protest, however they were protesting on the basis of false information. It’s one thing to protest, especially if you have done the extensive objective research needed to get all the facts straight. It’s another thing to spew ignorance and bigotry in the cover of freedom of speech. These same people I am discussing screamed at a man wearing traditional kente cloth about how he should “wear normal American clothes or go back to his country,” as he got off the metro stop. Thats not protesting in the name of a good cause. Thats blatant ignorance and fear mongering. I can’t tell you how many Americans have looked at me with disgust when I told them that I A-wasn’t an American and B-had no intention of getting citizenship. This isn’t bitching. This is expressing concern for something quite ugly happening today in the US.

SkepticalOne
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 08:12 pm: [report]

Btw- Im black Jamaican and my boyfriend is Irish American (I most definitely wasn’t inciting that there was any racial basis to the protest-just that it was frightening to hear all the misinformation)

PotteryGirl
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 08:21 pm: [report]

@SkepticalOne - “But this is not the issue at hand in regards to this spin off of the topic.”

YOU were the one that started the off topic piece.  I just responded to it.

@retro chic =   I did though, mostly from SkepticalOne and effing hickster.  People have the right to express opinions without having the spelling on their signs corrected. 

brandyalexander
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 08:23 pm: [report]

Wow, thanks for the link, Cheeeeese, that guy is very brave.
I really wish I could go down there and incite trouble, just to get some people arrested.  With that kind of hostility, you know they’d be throwing punches, and quickly. I’d happily take one just to watch one of them carted off to jail. The Abby Hoffman in me just wants to go and cause a spectacle.

Similarly, it would be amazing fun to infiltrate a group of the teabaggers and wait for them to say something racist or threaten the President’s life, then get that on tape just like they do to ACORN.

Unfortunately all the whackos around here already know and despise me!

AChanceAtHeaven
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 08:23 pm: [report]

And he’s wrapped Rosaries around his feet, I’m sure. Next up: switch his internet home page to Christian Science Monitor.

brandyalexander
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 08:25 pm: [report]

@PotteryGirl:  Indeed they do, just as Hickster has a right to make fun of them for being illiterate jackasses.
I recently had someone I don’t even know say I was taking away their freedom of speech by defriending them on Facebook.
Everyone has a right to say whatever they want in a public forum, and I have a right to say they are misinformed idiots.

ohmygollygarsh
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 08:27 pm: [report]

Let me point out how it’s all fine and dandy that he’s against yanking his own chain but his tattoo idea goes completely against the scripture that he presumably follows:

Lev. 19:28
“You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the LORD.”

Not that I’m by any means a bible banger or “holier than thou”, I was just raised in a Christian household that likes to debate about the bible and stuff like that quite often.

_jsw_
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 08:30 pm: [report]

Damn it. Why can’t we have just one discussion about the prevention of masturbation via Jesus finger tattoos without it devolving into a fight over socialism? Just once? Anymore, as soon as I see “Jesus finger tattoos” I know it’s only a matter of time before the national health plan comes up. It’s worse than the circumcision topics.

So… back on topic please: how is it that Jesus finger tattoos stop masturbation? As far as I can tell, all you’d see when doing it is a sideways “J”, which sort of looks like an erection, which I’d think would encourage masturbation. I just don’t understand how it stops it, and I’ll never be able to figure it out if you people keep talking about sign grammar.

SkepticalOne
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 08:30 pm: [report]

@ pottery girl

Of course I know that I was the start of the spin off. But as I can tell, you misunderstood my post. I was not disavowing anyones right to protest. Again, its the misinformation and in turn the violence that I saw that frightened me.  I shall stop discussing as miscommunication seems to be surfacing.I am truly sorry if you took offense. That was not my intention at all.

retro chic
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 08:44 pm: [report]

Elder StatesChick to El Nacho: tsk tsk. Didn’t we have a sit-down about “ageist” comments not long ago? Hmmm?

CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 08:51 pm: [report]

@retro chic: You want me to start breaking out more nicknames?

retro chic
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 09:07 pm: [report]

Gosh darn it. I can’t see half the
comments on my screen, Frisky IT person,
only on the left side. Regardless of
my political or religious persuasions,
I want to be able to see both sides!

So CheeeeEEEEse, hold that thought
until I can see it. Btw, mine was
tongue in cheek. Are the comments
cut off on anyone else’s screen?

PotteryGirl
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 09:23 pm: [report]

I think the best part of all of this is that I am defending people who I don’t agree with.  LOL.  I just really take offense to elitist “correct their spelling” and other things I’ve read in this thread.  Just because someone is christian or conservative doesn’t make them stupid, crazy, racist, or judgemental.  This thread has read like the Washington Post or something Chris Matthews might vomit up on his “news” show.  Spouting being “open minded” but only open minded wiht those that agree with your opinion. 

Off to read more about shoes and Taylor Swift.

CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 09:25 pm: [report]

I’m missing some on the chatter page. But my monitor is gigantic. Must be a formatting issue.

_jsw_
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 09:29 pm: [report]

Mine are sometimes cut off, sometimes not. It would seem that they’re playing with the settings.

effing hickster
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 09:31 pm: [report]

It’s the ignorance, bigotry, and fear-mongering that I was trying to bring light to.

Those who say that immigrants have no rights don’t seem to realize that we were not the original occupiers of this country. Also, much of the toil it took to build up our country was on the backs of slaves. “Give us back our country” should be the rallying cry of over 100 Native American nations, not a bunch of sons of immigrants like ourselves.

I don’t know how many times it has to be pointed out, but the proposed health care bill WILL NOT COVER UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS on the exchange. Legal aliens will have to pay out of pocket for their own insurance, just as we do when we vacation in foreign countries, and verification will be required. Lastly, anyone who needs emergency care will receive it. Same as it would be for a U.S. citizen if they needed emergency care in most foreign countries. Any less would be inhumane.

Obama has provided a certification of live birth that shows him to have been born in Hawaii, and every single fabricated birth certificate provided by his detractors have been proven to be false documents. (I used to work as a clerk in a hospital, and many people tried to falsely obtain medical records from us or from the state. Do you really think some goofball lady from Israel could just ask for his birth certificate from another country and have it handed right over, no questions asked?)

Lastly, Medicare is a social program regulated by the government. Our public school system is a social program instituted and regulated by the government. Social Security and Unemployment Insurance are both social welfare programs instituted and regulated by the government. I pay taxes for these, you pay taxes for these, we all pay taxes for these. If we didn’t, there would be no safety net for any of us. Telling the government to butt out completely would greatly expose us to risks that are too great to handle individually.

I firmly believe that the arguments foisted on us by many of these protesters is both a veiled racist attack and a deliberate twisting of the facts in an attempt to confuse and obscure the main talking points. Everyone has the right to protest, but they are really shooting themselves in the foot by spreading dis-information and trying to derail any proper conversation. Okay, so I shouldn’t correct your spelling? Then don’t shout, push, shove, or spit at me.

In my earlier post, I was merely trying to show the misguided attempts to confuse the issues and the years of racist hate spewed at me by one of these so-called right-thinking Americans who happens to be my own brother.

Okay, rant off. I won’t do this anymore, because The Frisky is not the proper arena for this kind of debate.

And CheeeeEEEEse, I really do look like I’m in my twenties. Old is only a state of mind.

CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 09:42 pm: [report]

@hickster: He he he.

retro chic
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 09:42 pm: [report]

I’m sorry – this is *my* fault.
We’re talking about cutting again.
Bad chic-chic.

PotteryGirl
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 09:43 pm: [report]

@retro chic—as long as we aren’t talking about cutting the CheeeeEEEEse…

lawyrgrl
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 09:47 pm: [report]

@Brandyalexander Could not have said it better.

@Potterygirl I applaud your support of free speech when you disagree with the message.  However, I disagree with your stance on the issue of the signs many of the protesters carry.  Pointing out that many of the “teaparty” signs have wildly inaccurate spelling and punctuation does not make us elitist.  It makes us educated.  Are we expected to ignore the fact that the person who created the sign is either illiterate or careless?  The fact remains that it makes them look foolish and undermines their credibility from the start.

retro chic
wrote on September 14 2009 @ 10:02 pm: [report]

@PotteryGirl: haha. I think it’s
safe to say… CheeeeEEEEse is
*more than OK* with being cut.

yesaguy
wrote on September 15 2009 @ 06:07 am: [report]

PEOPLE PLEASE…. SO IF HE WANTS TO DO THIS THEN WHY SHOULD ANY BODY CARE?  HE ISNT ASKING ANYBODY ELSE IS HE??? DIDNT THINK SO.  I STAND FOR EVERY ONE WHO OPENS UP LIKE A UNSCARED PERSON WOULD DO, THEN I SEE ALOT OF PEOPLE HERE BASHING HIM…. NOT COOL.  I AM AN ADDICT OH JUST INCASE YOU DIDNT RELISE EVERY BODY IS ADDICTED TO SOMETHING! TELL ME YOUR NOT AND ILL CALL YOU A LIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  SO HE GOES TO EXTREAM ON EITHER OR BUT ATLEAST HE IS NOT AFFRAID TO TELL HIS STORY.  BUT LETS JUST KEEP THINKING OH YEA HE WEIRD AND STUFF.  THATS JUST PLAIN PATHETIC AND I PITTY PEOPLE WHO CANT LOOK AT THIS AND JUST HONESLY SAY WOW THATS SOMETHING I HAVENT HEARD AND JUST MOVE ON.  BY THE WAY IF YOU NEVER HAD A NASTY SEXUAL THOUGHT ( YOU KNOW SOMETHING JUST DIRTY YOU WOULD ONLY DO WITH YOU MAN OR WOMEN ) IF YOU HAVENT HAD ONE ” GET OFF THIS SITE” AND IF YOU HAVE HAD A THOUGHT LIKE THAT THEN GUESS WHAT YOU CAN BE LOOKED AT JUST AS WEIRD IF YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE ON A SITE LIKE THIS BASHING YOU LIKE HIM.  OH WAIT HE ISNT SCARED TO TELL HIS STORY BUT YOU ARE….... HMMMM OH AND BY THE WAY I DONT EVEN LIKE THE BANDS MUSIC JUST F.Y.I. BUT SOME PEOLPE MAKE ME SICK WHEN THEY JUST CANT GIVE SOME ONE A CHANCE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY ARE COMMING FROM.  AND ANY SMART BUTS NO IM TAT FREE AND PIERCING FREE.  DONT MEAN TO OFFEND BUT ALOT OF COMMMENTS ON HEAR MADE ME MAD.  WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD PEOPLE

majicksand
wrote on September 15 2009 @ 07:27 am: [report]

Um… ok?  I was out most of yesterday.  I missed quite a bit apparently.

effing hickster
wrote on September 15 2009 @ 08:45 am: [report]

Yelling in caps is a common addiction, too.

GreenAura
wrote on September 15 2009 @ 09:14 am: [report]

@ PotteryGirl: Again, who cares?  This site is chock full of women talking about their menstrual cycles, losing their virginity, masturbation, casual sex, STD’s, sex toys, etc.  Are you going to ask everyone here to stop talking about those subjects because some may have sensitive ears?  A man happens to bring up his LACK of doing any of the above mentioned and people attack him?  Total double standard.

PotteryGirl
wrote on September 15 2009 @ 09:20 am: [report]

It’s totally different, Green Aura.  It’s some wack job (hey..I just cracked myself up!) celeb stirring up controversy because they’re weird.  If it wasn’t weird and outragious, I doubt anyone would even been talking about him and certainly Frisky wouldn’t have posted the article.

I think the only double standard is that he’s a celeb.  But like I said earlier, he put it out there to invite comment.  If you don’t want people talking about what you are saying (both approvingly and critically, then you shouldn’t offer up this kind of information).

GreenAura
wrote on September 15 2009 @ 09:57 am: [report]

Well, I can see that you and I probably won’t ever agree on this issue.  So I’ll just drop it because we can go back and forth until the wheels fall off.  That being said, I respect your opinion and I hope you have a fantastic day!

SummertimeFirefly
wrote on September 15 2009 @ 10:15 am: [report]

My only question is this: How do we know Jesus didn’t masturbate? Just asking…

majicksand
wrote on September 15 2009 @ 11:40 am: [report]

@skeptical:  Not to belabor the point, but I don’t really appreciate being told I’m judgemental, self-righteous and hypocritical.  I actually have listened to most of Korn’s music.  I also have Brian Welsh’s book.  He said he left the band because he felt it was a bad environment for his daughter.  The realization hit the night his daughter began singing “All Day I Dream About Sex” at 3 years old.  Please don’t insinuate that I don’t know what I’m talking about.  Whether it is true or not is irrelevant.  That (in addition to the drugs) is the reason Brian Welch gave in his book for leaving the band.

As for my judgements on his behavior, I’ve seen it before.  It is extreme and potentially hazardous not only to him but to his daughter.  Live and let live is a wonderful philosophy until someone gets hurt.  Then all of a sudden people wonder why nothing was done.  All the red flags were there, but no one wanted to get involved.

PotteryGirl
wrote on September 15 2009 @ 06:52 pm: [report]

@GreenAura - sorry, VERY busy day today.  I agree we won’t agree on this, but I’m sure somewhere down the line, there will be a zillion other things we can agree on or (even more fun) disagree on.    Hope you had a great day!

catscratchfever
wrote on September 17 2009 @ 08:10 am: [report]

I give the guy six months before he becomes a lefty.  Just sayin’.

Black Iris
wrote on September 17 2009 @ 03:54 pm: [report]

I don’t think the singer should be criticized for trying to refrain from masturbation.  That’s what he believes in.

At the same time, I think it’s a little perverse to tell everyone you’ve tattooed Jesus on your hand to keep you from masturbating.  Now it’s impossible to look at his hand without thinking about masturbation.

DancingGeek
wrote on September 20 2009 @ 08:38 pm: [report]

Criticism is part of the celebrity package deal.

Masturbation is a natural, HEALTHY part of human sexuality, when I hear someone claim they don’t masturbate I think they’re either a liar or repressed.  But that’s my opinion.

duhh
wrote on October 23 2009 @ 10:45 pm: [report]

that’s pretty sad…........

the last thing Jesus would want him to do is hurt himself because of some nasty woman….....

for 5 years?