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Sexual Partners That Don't Count

If I were on the witness stand, under oath, and asked, “How many people have you had sexual intercourse with?” my response would be one or two digits higher than what I commonly tell people. It’s not that in either case I’m lying per se; it’s just that a few of my partners just don’t register on the same scale as the rest and I don’t want to count them. And I’m not alone. In everyday life, there may be a couple partners that the average person would leave out. There is just some sex that doesn’t really, well, count.

IT DOESN’T COUNT IF…

1. ...it lasts less than 10 seconds and no one finished.

Remember the Sneakerhead? On our third date, after eight hours of drinks, a movie, and dinner, we hooked up. And then he stuck it in for five seconds. And then he pulled out, saying he needed to be a gentleman. There was no thrusting. And we never went out again. I downright refuse to count this alongside my best—or worst—sexual experiences. Likewise, a friend of mine technically did it with a guy she’s fondly nicknamed “The Two Pump Chump,” but because he came before she had a chance to blink, he remains off her list in response to most inquiries about her number.

In short, if your tampon has seen more action with your va-jay-jay, feel free to not count this particular sexual partner.

2. ...you can’t remember it.

So here is the deal: I know what my exact number is, but I cannot remember WHO one of my partners is. Like, I know I have slept with X amount of people, just based on the number of times I have kept count, but after all these years (five of which were spent with only one person) of not having counted, I forget who one of them was. I can name, or at least picture, every single sexual partner except one. I have no memory of who, what, where, when, or how. I know that person exists, and the sex was had, but because after trying really hard to remember, I am just subtracting Mr. Mysterious from my total. Now, if I were to wake up in the middle of the night saying, “A-ha!” then that person would be added back onto my list, unless, of course, they were finished in under 10 seconds (see #1).

3. ...you didn’t give permission.

Not to get all dark and depressing, but if someone is raped, do they really have to count that person as a sexual partner? I mean, they weren’t a willing participant, so…

Related example, the first person I ever had sex with, um, did it on the sly (long story that you can read here), and though the second time we had sex was with my, you know, permission, I don’t consider that first time as sexual intercourse. I count him among my sexual partners, but not that first time we technically had sex.

4. ...you really, really, really regret it.

This one is a little harder to justify. Have you ever regretted having sex with someone SO MUCH you would do just about anything to have the mental image of their ginormous balls and sweaty gruntingness eradicated from your memory? Some ladies (and maybe fellas) have been known to scratch those dudes off their lists. Wouldn’t hold up in a court of law, but whatevs, I won’t be mad at you.

5. ...you’re less than 51 percent sure that penetration actually occurred.

This is similar to #2, only alcohol is the culprit, not a crappy memory. If the details are that foggy, lay off the drink, get yourself a pregnancy test/Plan B, and see the gyno to make sure you’re disease-free. Then, when you’re in the clear, you can decide if this potential sex partner makes your list.

6. ...he has a bad case of whiskey dick.

I know many a lady who doesn’t really count that guy she tried to have sex with over the course of an evening, but he couldn’t keep it up long enough for her to moan his name once. This is harder to not count, however, if his Johnson does sober up and repairs its reputation. A guy friend of mine performed so poorly with a partner many moons ago, he hesitates to count her, mostly, probably, out of shame.

7. ...it happened in Vegas.

Just kidding, this totally counts. Sorry dudes.

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canadiancutie
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 06:44 am: [report]

Agreed. Especially the non-functional equipment part. If he couldn’t stay hard enough to penetrate you, there’s no way he gets to claim a notch on your bedpost.


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bbpickles
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 07:09 am: [report]

What if the dude was sooooo sweaty that he dripped all over and the salty sweat drips burned my eyes so bad that I couldn’t enjoy myself?


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writergirl
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 07:13 am: [report]

So…the factor of three then?


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Annika Harris
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 07:30 am: [report]

I never count my “coulda had a V8 moments.” There are a few guys I can’t remember too, so I know what my number should be, but not exactly.


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lostrun
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 07:34 am: [report]

Thanks to number 1 and 6, my number is cut way down!  I like this new math


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_jsw_
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 07:58 am: [report]

As a guy, there are four numbers that matter to me. And no, I don’t really ask and, if it comes up, I don’t assume it’s 100% accurate. But if I could truly know four numbers, they would be:

(1) The number of guys with whom you’ve been intimate enough that you _could_ have gotten pregnant or caught an STD, at least in theory (so, pretend no birth control was used for the purposes of calculating this number). This number is purely for risk assessment, and if it’s unusually high or low for someone’s age, then it also suggests other issues. For this number, there is nothing that doesn’t count. It is also almost impossible to be sure of in most cases, because even the person who’d tell it to you might have lapses.

(2) The number of guys with whom you’ve been in love. I’m a relationship guy, so knowing you’ve given your heart to lots of other guys - or none of them, or the one who broke it so badly you’ll never love again - matters as much to me as the number of penises that have been in or on you. For hook-ups, this wouldn’t matter.

(3) The number of guys you’ve had mind-blowing (or at least highly memorable in the good sense) sex with. This number is almost undoubtedly going to haunt me, but I suppose I’d like to know. If it’s zero, then I’m either going to be a hero (if I become #1) or more likely another guy on the pile of men who never pleased you. If it’s not zero, then I’m always going to think about you with the other guys. Again, this is me as a relationship person. For hook-ups, this number is usually best if it’s high, because it shows you really love sex.

(4) The number of guys who fall into both of the above categories. A guy you loved who was horrible in bed… forgotten. A guy who was great in bed but who never managed to get you to fall for him… less of an issue, but always remembered. A guy who stole your heart and was a stallion in bed? That guy’s ghost is going to stick around for a while.


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becktasm
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 08:30 am: [report]

Damn, that drops my number down by like a dozen.


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Riley
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 08:41 am: [report]

Numbers are one of those things I never really care to ask about, doesn’t really matter to me.  Can’t change it and regardless of what you think numbers tell you, they usually don’t give away much about the person except that they have lived before you came along.


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avalari
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 08:46 am: [report]

@ jsw: Well thought out. It’s nice to know men actually care about that stuff.

Ditto on liking on the new math. I always wondered if they guy who just got inside just long enough to cough and fall out counted…


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MichelleS1017
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 09:05 am: [report]

maybe its just me but i think 2 and 4 should count.


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HappyDude
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 09:09 am: [report]

I think we’ve finally solved the mystery why men report more sex partners than women do whenever a new scientific survey comes out! I’m pretty sure most guys would count any technicality towards their “number”.


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Perceptible
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 09:13 am: [report]

It all counts, no matter how much “spin” you put on it. Besides, if you’re going to do it, don’t be ashamed of it. If you’re ashamed of it, that’s a whole other issue.


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snap
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 10:37 am: [report]

i think it all counts.  if there was penetration, even just the head, it is sex and it counts.  it doesn’t have to count as your favorite or one of your best, but it counts in the number.  the sex happened.  that’s a fact.  you can’t undo it.


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MissChaotic
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 10:40 am: [report]

*files down some of her bedpost notches*

Thanks Frisky! And Annika I’ve had both of those issues. I’ve also had the want to get it out of my head so bad guy, who a week later, came to visit for a booty call, and got gum all over my pillowcase. Trust, he got no booty.


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bogart4017
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 10:40 am: [report]

I read a post like this somewhere else once. There also all the ladies tended to agree. All the men were strangely silent. So i’ll speak right up—for MOST guys—if we wouldnt be seen with her in the cold light of day she tends not to be counted. If she passes out in the middle of the act, forget it. If she sent us home right after the big o she’s not counted. And finally (lol) if she is a third cousin from Alabama we never remember to mention her.


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sparklestar
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 11:05 am: [report]

I don’t really count one guy because both of the times we tried to have sex (yeah, I was on the rebound) he kept falling out and it was pitiful! The whole thing makes me feel sick to think about now.


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ChoJinn
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 11:30 am: [report]

Sorry ladies, it all counts from a man’s perspective.  He couldn’t get hard, penis too small, whatever: you still “let him in there,” so to speak.  Your sexual availability is really what we care about.

Though such conversations should really never occur.  Feigning concern over STDs is not an excuse either, because you can simply ask the person directly instead of trying to imply some probability.  As this article shows, everyone will conform their answer to what he/she believes the asker wants to hear.


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lovelie
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 11:35 am: [report]

What if no one else knows of the encounter?  This is the rule I have utilized in the case of one particular encounter.  No one but myself (and he who shall not be named) will ever know, so therefore I do not feel it should count.  (source: the rules according to me: 23rd edition)


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Loves2Spooge
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 11:39 am: [report]

I can only agree with numbers 3 and 7.  The rest are all mental gymnastics to make yourself feel better.  I am not saying that you are wrong for nixing some of those dudes, as most ladies I know have similar rules.  That’s why as a guy I a) never play the slut numbers game unless absolutely necessary, and b) add another 3 to 5 partners to the number the lady gives me.


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writergirl
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 11:42 am: [report]

@ChoJinn—not true.  If he couldn’t get hard, we didn’t “let him in there” therefore he doesn’t get counted. 

The notch doesn’t get added to the bedpost until the *after* the actual event.  What happens DURING the event, therefor, can keep the notch from being added—just like a missed field goal keeps your team from winning the game.


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lily48
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 12:55 pm: [report]

me and my friends talk about thins a lot more reason that we conclude are…if you didnt tell anybody, if you’re on vaction and if you cant remember their name…


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Justine
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 05:59 pm: [report]

Hahahaha. I love #7


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moonblossom
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 06:14 pm: [report]

LOL! Well, that takes care of at least one of them!

@loves2spooge: You add 3-5 to the lady’s number? That’s funny. Just remember, she’s subtracting 3-5 from yours.


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november82
wrote on July 7 2009 @ 07:32 pm: [report]

So after applying the rules of this article to my “number”, turns out I’m a virgin!
I do like the theory about “the number” having to do with the amount of people who could have gotten you pregnant/given you an STD.


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eskim00ninja
wrote on July 8 2009 @ 01:56 am: [report]

Wow…that whacks me down to 0.  Should I celebrate?


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George
wrote on July 9 2009 @ 09:36 pm: [report]

What about that guy whose equipment wasn’t working but he went down on you and got you off?  Do you count him?


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pornqueen
wrote on July 10 2009 @ 01:00 pm: [report]

My number is calculated the following way:
It counts only and only if I was able to orgasm, otherwise i don’t even bother adding it to my list.  So based on this list it narrows my number considerably.  I like this math!  Now this talk should be between your girls and not with guys at all. If a guy asks then I ask him the same question and whatever number he gives me and divide by two then substract 10 and that’s my number to him.


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ChoJinn
wrote on July 11 2009 @ 11:44 am: [report]

Divide by 2 and subtract by 10?  That’s awesome, though I wouldn’t exactly want to hear that if I asked you anyway raspberry I take a similarly-minded approach.  Though it doesn’t often happen, whatever the woman says I undercut by two or three.


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Iammina
wrote on July 11 2009 @ 06:00 pm: [report]

I like this theory and I am down to three. I loved all three and the sex was fantastic. I want to count these three.


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GirlvWorld
wrote on July 12 2009 @ 05:37 pm: [report]

Thanks for this article.  I’m feeling much better about my actual number… or my ambiguous number…

http://www.blog.#&@$%.com


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Angry_Hamster
wrote on July 12 2009 @ 08:11 pm: [report]

What if you were in Vegas, you do not remember how it was, or how long it lasted, or what he looked like, or whether he was drunk… because you were #&@$% yourself. You also do not remember whether you gave any permission, but given the “clothes” you found around your bed in the morning, your “Hello” could have been counted as permission. Imagine also that in addition to all this, you actually regret whatever happened the previous night.
So now, a week later, you are at a doctor’s office with a really bad case of itchiness in between your legs. And the doctor asks when was your last intercourse. Does it still not count? Are you going to say “2 months ago”?
Take responsibility for your actions. Your “actual number” is the actual number of people you had sex with (in fact it is: (the actual number) * (the actual number) - the assumption being that everyone had as many partners as you did). So if you are a wh*re, you are a wh*re. Since obviously you don’t feel ok with yourself being a wh*re, guess what, lying to yourself won’t make it better.


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_jsw_
wrote on July 12 2009 @ 08:45 pm: [report]

@Angry_Hamster: Thank you. It’s about time someone called these whores out for who they are. I personally am sure to tell everyone every single intimate detail about myself when asked, which is simple, because I never make mistakes, even in hindsight.


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kybo61
wrote on July 12 2009 @ 11:35 pm: [report]

Let me state this clearly: “I did not have sex with that man.”  Meaning, I either smoked his pole, he entered via the back door, we mutually pleasured one another in a non-vaginal manner, etc.  Otherwise, I have had sex with between three and fifty gentlemen.  The correct answer to “How many men have you had sex with?” is, “A real gentleman never asks a lady that question.”


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GrandestR
wrote on July 13 2009 @ 05:27 am: [report]

Sex is like drinking: if you can’t remember how many you had, or what you had, or are not really sure if you enjoyed what you had - you’ve had too many.


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canadiancutie
wrote on July 13 2009 @ 06:13 am: [report]

I see no reason an addendum can’t be added to the rule. If the man by unfortunate error left you any kind of a souvenir, he is by default - memorable. However, I think we all know that usually anything unwanted or unexpected a woman gets from a man usually comes from those who the man inherently trusts “because we’re monogamous,” forgetting that he did have a whole life and sexual history prior to meeting her. Women are not usually stupid or careless when it comes to one-night-stands, but get her heart involved and it’s like common sense can fly out the window.

Love the judgment, though. You never see the reverse; a woman judging you because you obviously can’t get laid.


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canadiancutie
wrote on July 13 2009 @ 06:14 am: [report]

** .... from those who the woman inherently trusts “because we’re monogamous”...


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canadiancutie
wrote on July 13 2009 @ 06:20 am: [report]

We’re supposed to just accept that it’s a good thing if you’re “virtuous” and your numbers are low, even if that translates into obvious and evident sexual inexperience. With all due respect, #&@$% that.


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MichelleS1017
wrote on July 13 2009 @ 05:10 pm: [report]

didnt know that not orgasming meant you never had sex. sounds like something someone who has been around the block WAY too many times would say


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Sugarmandy
wrote on July 13 2009 @ 07:48 pm: [report]

This is hilarious I myself follow a few of these rules.
#1- is a biggie if we’ve been dating for a few weeks and we start getting into hot and heavy and 10 seconds later he’s done. I’m done with the relationship. Yes I’m one of those girls, if you can’t think baseball and hold on for more than 3 minutes. I’m thinking of the cute guy, who delivers my UPS packages; I should probably give him my number.
#2- I have a few of these on my list unfortunately but I try to alleviate this by keeping a list. Yep hidden in my day planner is an actual for my eyes only list of my sexual partners. This is one listed as Drew/Dan but to my defense they were twins.
#3- I agree 100%
#4 I have a few that would fall into this category but I keep them on the list. But if I’m asked a verbal list I “accidently” skip there name.
#5-I don’t think this has ever happened I’ve been totally hammered and blacked out during sex but I knew what was happening well when I was conscious.
#6- Yep yep this goes with #1. You need to wake the little guy up for me to count it.
I like your list _jsw_ : )
As for Angry_Hamster, yes woman need to own up to their own mistakes and not come up with rules to absolve their conscious. But I’ve never known a man to calculate their number truthfully and honestly either. Especially if were counting oral sex, hand job and other randomness.  I know just as many guys and girls who have made those mistakes, and use their own version of math to make themselves feel better.  Were human and were scared to be judged. I myself proudly wear a badge with a 15 embossed on it and 19 if were counting chicks. : ) Not bad for 11 years. : )
I also think being a wh*re and the number of sexual partners you have don’t always correlate. If a guy is getting head by random chicks every other day but claims to be a virgin (which I know this guy *sigh*) He’s a wh*re. When he boasts his sexual partners number is zero. It’s still a crock and he actually gets action with that line. I also try warning the ladies when he runs off to get more drinks, yea sometimes I’m a c*ck block but only for the betterment of the human race. :  )


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wonderfultonight
wrote on July 14 2009 @ 12:18 am: [report]

They all count except #6 - why count a Willy-nilly? But why is a *count* important? but NOT for hook-ups _jsw_ WTF?Even a low count number could have awful consequences if the person had an std and didn’t tell you. @riley - you said it best. I think Sugarmandy brought up a good point,too. It seems numbers count FOR men, but AGAINST women. The old double standard that calls a woman a wh*re, but a man a *stud*. I thought those days were over.


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Em.El.E.
wrote on July 14 2009 @ 12:36 am: [report]

@-JSW- : THANKYOU for being such an awesome guy! lol i love your number system! there needs to be more guys like you


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_jsw_
wrote on July 14 2009 @ 06:11 am: [report]

@Em.El.E: Thanks! smile

@wonderfultonight: Sorry - that last comment of mine (the “whore” one) was meant to be very sarcastic, not literal. :o


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travelfairy
wrote on July 14 2009 @ 12:07 pm: [report]

It’s nobody’s business how many people I have had sex with, and fortunately none of my boyfriends have been so rude as to ask.

If a person is worried about their partner’s sexual health, then simply mention that you need to swap STD results from your respective Drs before engaging in physical intimacy.


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George
wrote on July 14 2009 @ 03:30 pm: [report]

The rules seem to be different for men and women, although I don’t know why they should be.  A woman probably wouldn’t count the hand job or blow job she gave a boy while preserving her maidenhead, but he certainly would.  After all, they are both sex acts.  A man might count sex with a prostitute, but she wouldn’t even be keeping track, except as it increases her bank account.


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Penelope09
wrote on July 15 2009 @ 01:49 pm: [report]

According to this, I lost my virginity to the person I wanted to, not the one I originally “thought.” Thanks!


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wonderfultonight
wrote on July 15 2009 @ 08:10 pm: [report]

_jsw_ The last part of my comment was adding to Sugarmandy’s post that being a wh*re doesn’t necessarily correlate to number of sex partners, not yours. I realize it was sarcasm when you replied to Angry_Hamster. Thought that was good. Sorry for the mix up. You post some very funny comments.


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wonderfultonight
wrote on July 15 2009 @ 08:16 pm: [report]

_jsw_ OOPS! I should have written “not your post” - hope you didn’t take it to mean your “not your sex partners.lol


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_jsw_
wrote on July 15 2009 @ 08:43 pm: [report]

@wonderfultonight: I understood what you meant. smile And I’m glad you caught the sarcasm - I assumed it was pretty obvious, but I’ve had issues in other places with similar comments that were taken seriously, and I sometimes (er, often) over-explain when I worry I’ve been misunderstood. :o


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_jsw_
wrote on July 15 2009 @ 08:51 pm: [report]

@wonderfultonight: I finally realized (maybe) what you were asking me… the reason I said some of those things wouldn’t count for hook-ups is that those particular things would possibly make a caring partner (one with a strong emotional attachment to you) jealous or envious or whatnot, whereas a hook-up partner wouldn’t care.


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MissConstrued
wrote on July 16 2009 @ 12:29 pm: [report]

If he asks over and over again (instead of just putting on a condom) whether not not you’ve been checked for disease, then it doesn’t count cos that’s just not sexy.  Sorry guys.  If you are feeling too guilty over your last sexcapade to enjoy it with me, then it doesn’t count. 

I have a really hard time believing #5, but that’s forgivable considering people have a hard time believing I’ve never blacked out drinking ever. 

the memory thing/#2 should have catagories, lol because I remember one guy who was incredibly hot but can’t remember his name…  I think he should count..


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MissConstrued
wrote on July 16 2009 @ 12:38 pm: [report]

oh and as a woman i would totally count the first time getting head gave me an orgasm.  i would most certainly count that guy.  especially since in my case he was one of my longer relationships, lol.


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majicksand
wrote on July 16 2009 @ 01:19 pm: [report]

I hate the numbers game, and I have no idea what my count is.  I have 20 years of sexual experience for goodness sake.  That said, I only have 3 that count.  For that matter, one of them only counts because there is evidence.  Technically, we were married for 14 years and have a child together.  If not for that, I would erase him from the list. 

Highschool does not count at all.  Pre-bipolar diagnosis?  Doesn’t count.  Post break-up rebound?  Nope.  Guys I’m still friends with all these years later?  That depends, is my husband reading this? lol.

Seriously though, my husband and I have acknowledged that we both have a past.  Neither of us has bothered to count, nor do we have any desire to do so.  He wouldn’t dare ask my number even if he did wonder, considering he was a sucessful business owner, guitarist in a local band, and drove a corvette in his twenties.  He’s not bad looking either.  We’re both content to admit we’ve played the field and are quite happy to have put the “wild” days in the past.

As of right now, my official number is 1.


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oohlookasquirrel
wrote on July 18 2009 @ 02:51 pm: [report]

I’m sorry, but if you’ve only had disappointing hookups that you don’t remember or really regret or ended shortly after they began, and a potential partner asks about your past sexual history and you say that you’ve never actually had sex, you are a horrible person.  Normally, I think the numbers game is silly (and if you’re using this list to justify trimming yours from 20 to 10, that’s fine with me), but your partners should know how great the chance is that they’re going to catch something from you.

Personally, I think giving a number without any discussion behind it is a little meaningless.  Did you have a bunch of hook-ups in college without many repeat visitors, or are you a serial monogamist who has had lots of time learning about your partners?  Sure, quality of the sex matters when trying to describe your past sexual partners, but trying to quantify your sexual experiences in numbers without many footnotes and qualifications seems oversimplified and largely meaningless to me.


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canadiancutie
wrote on July 19 2009 @ 09:31 am: [report]

In Canada, where I live, statistically speaking, we have a greater number of sexual partners and a greater frequency of sex. Despite this, we have a lower teen pregnancy rate and a significantly lower rate of STD’s. Condoms, people. Not numbers.


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verdecillo
wrote on July 23 2009 @ 12:23 pm: [report]

I am a guy, and, having read the article and everyone’s comments, I must say the following:

It is my opinion that this article should not be taken very seriously.  In order to ease your conscience it is ok, but I do not think it should be used for purposes beyond making you feel better about your past.  Even for this purpose it should only go so far- one must recognize the choices one has made.  Even if the resulting event of that choice “only lasted 10 seconds” or even if you “really regret it,” etc. that does not mean that it should not count.  When you “choose to forget” those incidences not only are you being dishonest to others but also to yourself- instead, admit it to yourself.  That does not mean that you have to feel guilty, but simply learn from your past- for example, if you truly regret that silly “one-night stand” then make a decision to never let it happen again. 
Also, if your current BF/GF/fiance(e)/spouse/partner asks the question, (“how many people have you had sex with?”), don’t be offended and don’t lie.  This goes for girls AND guys both.  Just tell them the truth (don’t lessen the number or exaggerate it).  If he/she really cares about you, then he/she has good reasons for inquiring (it’s not simply to make you feel bad and/or dig up dirt about your past). 
I am currently engaged, and my fiancee and I have talked openly about our past.  We each asked each other this question and were honest in answering it.  I felt (and I’m sure she did as well) that even though telling the truth may have been hard, it is much better to be honest.  In addition, you don’t simply have to tell the number and leave it at that. Explain! If you consider some of your past “encounters” to have been big mistakes on your part then say so.  However, do not think that telling your current partner that you regret all your previous sexual encounters before them will make them feel better and/or trust you more.  You can call me old-fashioned, but I still believe that sex is ever so much more meaningful when it is shared between two people who actually truly love each other.  When sex occurs between two people who just met at a party and have known each other only a couple hours then it does not carry with it the same deep emotions that makes it feel so much better to those who save sex for true romantic relationships.  If my fiancee had told me that all her past sexual encounters were stupid “hookups” then that would just make me think: “This woman probably does not take sex seriously and views it as something that can be done between any two people that happen to feel the remotest attraction to each other- she did not take the opportunity to learn from her mistakes and she may not be faithful to me in OUR relationship.”  However, if she had said: “yes, I had sex with so-and-so, and I don’t regret it- we had been together for a long time, I had gotten to know him- when I gave myself to him it was because I felt that I truly loved him and that he truly loved me” then I would think: “this woman knows that sex is supposed to be special and supposed to be an expression of two people’s love for each other- I can probably trust her not to cheat on me.” 
Whew! I didn’t mean to write so much! Anyway, there it is- my opinion on the subject.


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Angry_Hamster
wrote on July 23 2009 @ 02:12 pm: [report]

@verdecillo - thank you, you said it exactly the way it should be said. I just hope ppl read your comment after they read the dumb article.


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verdecillo
wrote on July 23 2009 @ 06:59 pm: [report]

@Angry_Hamster: Thank you. I’m glad there are still people who believe that honesty (both with others AND with yourself) is the best policy.


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Black Iris
wrote on July 28 2009 @ 07:02 pm: [report]

Note to shy virgins who want to gain experience and impress people:  it doesn’t count if your partner is dead. 

http://www.yourtango.com/200929023/man-digs-woman-sex

Although, in terms of health concerns, it does.


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George
wrote on July 28 2009 @ 07:15 pm: [report]

If your partner died since then, he still counts.  If he was dead at the time, you don’t have to count him.


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adrykins
wrote on August 4 2009 @ 11:09 pm: [report]

I completely agree. Plus my number now is shrunken to the actual number I lie to people about. Thanks for clearing the air about that one. My friends don’t agree but I have at least one person that sees it the way I do!


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Lioozhe
wrote on August 9 2009 @ 08:29 pm: [report]

@Verdecillo—I have to agree very much.  Honesty is a #&@$% aphrodisiac.  The last few years I’ve dated women who did this kind of stuff and it was a big big turn off.  One of the best relationships I had (and the best sex) was when I was 23.  I’ve been in AA for twenty years now and at 23, I’d been there a year.  I was getting ready to do what is known as “the fifth step”, which verbatim is:

5. Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.

I was scared.  I grew up in a family without any open-ness, emotion or much honesty, so I found this terrifying.  I did part of it with my sponsor, a guy.  I tried to do the whole thing with a priest but he was uncomfortable with something like a real confession I think.  And I planned to do it with my counselor.  While I was waiting for my appointment, I did part of it with a woman friend from AA—who I wasn’t very attracted to at the time.  I was very open with her and she reciprocated and was helpful to me.  I found myself very attracted to her within a month and we started dating.  I later wrecked the relationship by saying something stupid and she retaliated and I didn’t realize that I caused it.  But the relationship was passionate, and beautiful, and incredibly honest.

Since then, I’ve been involved with a peer counseling network where everyone is encouraged to seek liberation from various societal oppressions that affect them.  I’ve gotten the opportunity to see women (and men) showing a lot of themselves that for various reasons they hide the rest of the time.

I think if you tell a guy that you slept with 45 (or whatever number) guys in your life and you’re ashamed of that, he may buy into your shame.  Why not just work your way out of that shame and be up front about the ups and downs of it all?  Isn’t this what friendship is, and why would I want to be with someone with whom I’m not really friends?


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doe966
wrote on August 13 2009 @ 01:33 pm: [report]

Hey, I can now tell the wife I was a virgin when we met. Of course, now she’ll think that, before we met, i was a drunk #&@$% who either can’t remember the names or didn’t care enough to satisfy them.

Oh wait, who am I kidding? I’m sure she remembers our first time together. LOL. raspberry


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Shriekback68
wrote on August 14 2009 @ 03:20 pm: [report]

Sorry, but it ALL counts. As long as everyone is safe, I don’t see the big deal anyway. When I was younger (and much more stupid), I cared about a woman’s “number.” Now I don’t give a crap. Life is about choices, both good and bad. None of us are perfect and if you think you have room to judge someone you’d better be able to walk on water.

Oh, and from one guy to another: the “number” applies to MEN AS WELL. We don’t get off the hook here guys, no matter how we want to rationalize it.


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Sly-Ry
wrote on August 28 2009 @ 02:24 am: [report]

This list is b.s.  You don’t get to discount someone as a sexual partner.  Take some responsibility for your actions.  If you’re ashamed of someone or some particular experience, then wise up and don’t make the same mistake again.  The only one that makes a bit of sense here is the instance of rape, where sure, that doesn’t count as a partner.  All the others are nonsense.


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SamL
wrote on October 7 2009 @ 10:03 am: [report]

IF I counted, none of the above, with the exception of #7, would be on my list. And since I’ve never been to Vegas, I know nothing happened there.

I can’t see the point of counting, or keeping score. I mean, what do you do when you get to 30? Or 40? Or 50? Are you going to stop having sex?

That said, a good percentage of the sexual liaisons I have experienced could be classified under using the above system.

Of course #1 doesn’t count.
If #2 ever occurred I don’t remember it.
#3 has never happened.
There are several in #4 category.
I lump #5 and #2 in the same category.
There are several in #6 category.
I’ve covered #7.

Additional categories: #8 Non penetrative orgasms. Yes; more than a few of those.


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spatula
wrote on October 9 2009 @ 12:57 pm: [report]

Totally agreed. I think I just got my virginity back.


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