Marriage License For Two Men In NYC Is Revoked
Posted by: Jessica Wakeman
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1:15PM, Monday June 15th 2009
Same-sex marriage bans just got stupider: two New Yorkers just got their marriage license revoked after city officials say they were snookered into believing the bride was actually a groom.
The would-be bride, Hakim Nelson, 18, identifies as a woman and hopes to undergo gender reassignment surgery. When Nelson married 21-year-old Jason Stenson on May 26, she not only wore an orange dress, white leggings and a $10 wedding ring, but also carried a state ID card that said “female” on it. (The official who issued the state ID assumed Nelson was a female.)
But once city officials discovered that both Nelson and Stenson have a penis between their legs, that was the end of that. The couple’s license has been revoked and the pair has since been registered for a domestic partnership.
Sigh. We understand why the city had to revoke their marriage license—laws are laws. But the whole story still underscores just how discriminatory this country can be against anyone who isn’t straight—in NYC of all places! [New York Post, New York Post]
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snap
wrote on June 15 2009 @ 01:51 pm: [report]
laws are laws, and a penis makes one a man!
snap
wrote on June 15 2009 @ 01:52 pm: [report]
p.s. - i believe the correct pronoun is “he.” even if you want believe that trans women really are women, the are not a woman at all until they have the surgery to make them one! a man with a penis is a man even if he wears a dress!
sadie
wrote on June 15 2009 @ 01:56 pm: [report]
Actually, I think if a trans person identifies as the opposite sex and lives as the opposite sex that dictates the pronoun.
becktasm
wrote on June 15 2009 @ 02:09 pm: [report]
Sex is anatomical. Gender is a social construct. Everyone knows that. If the person identifies as a She, then we call her a She.
missduplicity
wrote on June 15 2009 @ 02:34 pm: [report]
How embarrassing for America that we run around spreading “democracy,” “freedom,” and “equality” into other lands, without ever considering how to hold up that guarantee within the walls of our own sovereignty.
Whether or not the bride had a penis should have been nobody’s concern but her new husband’s. If he is okay with her parts, I don’t understand why the government has to interfere and tell them what they can and cannot call their relationship, because they have two dicks. This shouldn’t be an issue at all, because marriage between all legal, consenting adults should be recognized in the US.
And becktasm is right on…gender is completely constructed by our society. You can call yourself whatever gender you wish to be called and have it be true, because real proof of a “gender” doesn’t exist. Sex is anatomical, gender is not.
Jessica Wakeman
wrote on June 15 2009 @ 02:34 pm: [report]
I agree. I think people should be called by whatever they want to be called by.
babychels09
wrote on June 15 2009 @ 04:12 pm: [report]
I agree with Jessica in that everyone should be called by whatever they wish to be called. Is it really that big of deal for who marries who.
DesertLorelei
wrote on June 15 2009 @ 05:21 pm: [report]
If two people are in love, then who cares what their genders or sexes are? Let loving couples marry and get over it!
Ellis
wrote on June 15 2009 @ 07:33 pm: [report]
Since when were trans women not women until they underwent surgery? Who, exactly, made that rule? It seems arbitrary to me, not to mention intolerant and disrespectful. Gender is a social construct, absolutely - but even sex has grey areas. Someone who undergoes surgery is still not biologically the same as someone born to the gender. So, who says that having a penis is where you draw the line? If someone wants to be called she, have a little respect and call her she.
MissyLou64
wrote on October 17 2009 @ 06:59 am: [report]
I personally beleive that people should be with whoever they want to be with and that should include being married to whoever you wish to be married to.Gender should not matter.