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Clay Aiken Fans React

The biggest entertainment news to break this week is Clay Aiken’s revelation that he is indeed gay. This news really wasn’t surprising to me because my gaydar started beeping the second I first laid eyes on the former “American Idol” contestant. Since many of Clay’s fans didn’t have my intuition and have vehemently denied his homosexuality in the past, I thought it would be interesting to find out exactly what his fans think now. I hope they still remain supportive because it would be really messed up if they shun him for his sexuality.

Claymaniacs

CLaYsAiKeNfAN: “im still a fan even if the rumors are true , i love clay aiken for who he is and i accept him for him. and im still going to be a true fan no matter what. and wear t-shirts with him on it and show my support from clay aiken. no matter what.hope every one has a nice day.”
heartofclays: “I am not too surprised that Clay is gay.  I always thought his biggest concern would be his mother, Faye.  I was proud to dance the “mother/son” dance at my son’s wedding to Clay’s song, “Measure of a Man”.  I believed both Clay and my son set some of the finest examples of what a true man should be.”
nancyb: “I will always love this guy as an entertainer. He would have been ok if he had been honest earlier in the game- now, I am not sure how I feel about him as a man-not a gay man- just a man.”
1stclayniac: “I never believed Clay was gay even with all the rumors.  But then he decided he wanted to be a father. The methods used proved to me he was.  However it doesn’t change him at all. He is still one extremely talented guy.”
somanywayswithyoubabe: “ok i still can’t believe he’s gay!  I want to hear it from the man himself that he’s gay!  PEOPLE MAGAZINE IS FULL OF BULL!  Clay if you read this, please tell us if that’s true.  if it is, that’s cool.”
sailormars307: “if anyone stops supporting clay because of his sexuality…well they’re not really a fan now are they?”
purplegoddess_58: “Hey all, I am still a fan of Clay!! He is a talented generous giving man! It should not matter to anyone how he chooses to live,as long as he continues to be giving talented and loving!! His son is adorable!”

Clay Aiken The Ideal Idol

User 314: “yes i don’t really understand. i want to see the article and clays words. he’s still the same singer.”
luvclay: “I want an apology for 5 years of belief in something that wasn’t there. I can’t think about it anymore. I can’t show my face at work tomorrow.”
claifan: “yep my jaw dropped when i saw the magazine cover.. then i remembered the comment that kelly clarkson made about him that she will always love him more that any husband she marries that was a really big clue as to his sexuality.”

Obviously, some fans have been in denial for a long time. The good news is the majority of fans don’t seem to have changed their minds about Clay as an entertainer.

Tags: clay aiken, homosexuality, fatherhood, commando, coming out, parker aiken

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Lynn
wrote on September 24 2008 @ 11:56 am: [report]

What’s up with that person saying she can’t show her face at work tomorrow? What the hell?


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Amelia
wrote on September 24 2008 @ 12:03 pm: [report]

@Lynn I thought the exact same thing! Where does she work?


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Croutons
wrote on September 24 2008 @ 12:22 pm: [report]

That photo makes him look like a lesbian Elvis impersonator!


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Morgan
wrote on September 24 2008 @ 12:31 pm: [report]

Oh please, I knew he was gay in the very beginning, it doesn’t change the fact that he’s a good singer. It’s not like he killed anyone or his self for coming out.
Clay, I still love you and your voice.


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Donna C
wrote on September 24 2008 @ 03:20 pm: [report]

Its a shame that we get to have our comments about Clay.  Does Clay get to judge us about our lives?? Keep singing Clay, be the best dad and human being you possibly can. You have blessed us all with your talents.


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Shirley C
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 12:31 am: [report]

Clay, it doesn’t matter who or what you are, GOD created us all,and I’m proud to say that,you Clay Aiken wil always be #1 in my heart. I’m also a christain Clay, and you can’t tell me that we all haven,t told a fid or two at one time.Congrats on your little boy Parker Foster Aiken, I’m sure Jaymes and you will be the best of parents, I’m very happy for you guys. We our all products produced by our heavenly father.Stay true to yourself, and never stop sining, you are the best vocalist since Elvis,forever your loving fan. I hope I’m able to meet you someday, thats my dream, I’m 61 Clay, just to meet such a fantastic gentlemen,as you are


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Kitty C
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 03:36 am: [report]

I don’t mind that he’s gay, but he shouldn’t have lied.


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Country Bumpkin'
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 05:24 am: [report]

Who cares if He is Gay or Not. HE IS STILL THE SAME PERSON EVERYONE FELL IN LOVE WITH DURING IDOL AND AFTER. You ALL still voted for him. His talents are still the same. Why do people HAVE to talk about the T.V. Populars. LEAVE THEM ALONE and let them live their live’s in PEACE.

And WHO CARES IF HE LIED ABOUT IT? I would have to because of all the comments that he will have to indour. Maybe JUST MAYBE he wanted to LIVE HIS LIFE IN PEACE WITH HIS CHILD…...

DON’T JUDGE HIM OR OTHER’S It isn’t YOUR job. It is GOD’S Job. And he has GOD in his heart and life. So I say HE HAS GOD ON HIS SIDE.

LET IT GO Y’ALL…Let him be HAPPY…LET THEM BE HAPPY.

After ALL THESE Years of all the Hollywood type comming out of the closet as youall say it then you would think it would be the NORM to hear. Y’all make it sound like he did something HORRIBLE. Don’t be so surprised when you hear things like this. it’s NO BIG DEAL. HE’S STILL HUMAN…...

LET HIM BE….....


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Croutons
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 06:49 am: [report]

OK, but now that he’s out, that means he has to start making music that doesn’t suck.


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Simosa
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 06:59 am: [report]

What dreamy hair!


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Ember
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 08:52 am: [report]

So Clay is out.  I was a huge fan of Clay.  I always thought he was effeminate but not gay.  All the fans that say it doesn’t matter are deceiving themselves and just covering up for their lechery and lust that made it so fun to be a fan.  Not they have to make a change to why they loved a talented guy that had some real sex appeal.  I’ve read the boards… girls talking about getting him in bed and all the things they’d like to do to him and visa versa…etc… Now they’re eating crow.  I personally am offended by his deceit and the fact that he says he is a born again Christian.  Can’t happen.  Can’t live an ongoing sin day in and day out knowing it’s wrong and never repent.  Truly knowing Christ is making the change to live in God’s will and His word. Repentance is the key word here.  Clay’s got a beautiful talent. I wish him well and our group here will always pray for him.


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Amelia
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 09:00 am: [report]

@Ember Eww.


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Blair
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 09:23 am: [report]

who still thinks that it’s a sin to be gay? GET OVER IT IT’S 2008!!! let people live the way they wanna live! Ember hunnie go pray for yourself because you are ass backwards and having a whack attack


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Ember
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 09:37 am: [report]

Blair read the Bible.  God has given us this book for life instruction.  He is our creator—if you don’t believe in God—our God that promises His creation eternal life only through belief and faith in His son Jesus then don’t jump all over me.  I am a believer and the year 2008 doesn’t change God’s word. The Bible specifically states no man will lay down with another and the same for women.  So I will pray that God touches your heart and opens your eyes.


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Blair
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 09:47 am: [report]

Ember I’m Jewish. I read the Torah. And I pray for you that G-d opens your eyes because you are narrow-minded. People are born how they are born and who they love is who they love. And I’m actually kind of boggled that you are even reading this site if you adhere so strictly to the rules of the bible.


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Suki
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 09:48 am: [report]

Ember,...What is a “good christian” who loves to babble about Jesus doing reading a website dedicated to celebrity gossip and sex?  Trying to live vicariously through the rest of us sinners because you’re too afraid of a mythical character named God and a fine piece of literature called the bible?  Time to get out there and experience these things for yourself so you don’t end up ignorant and living your life actually believing that the only way to be a good person is to follow a book blindly.  Or at least, don’t be a hypocritical christian and try to tell others how to live their lives while you are spending the day arguing on a website, basically dedicated to all things sinful (and i love it)  over a man’s personal choice to tell the world that he is gay.


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Autumn
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 10:23 am: [report]

Clay Aiken gay? Who would have thunk it! Please people don’t tell me you really didn’t know. He still has a beautiful voice but he is a fake and has a very better than you attitude.


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Ember
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 10:54 am: [report]

People what brought me here was Clay’s admission.  In my first post you’d see I was a huge fan of Clay.  I am a Christian.  But when Clay professes to be a born again Christian and then says he is gay—That is an oxymoron if I’ve ever heard one. I only posted here to give my opinion—we are all entitled to that.  If you are a Christian you’ll know God’s view on this subject.  Just read the Bible. It’s very clear.


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Suki
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 11:07 am: [report]

Actually Ember, I was under the impression that the bible was man’s interpretation of what god says, since nowhere does it state that the actual old testament was written by jewish prophets and the new testament by christian prophets.  There are lots of things in the bible that are “very clear” as you say.  Do you follow all of them?  Do you not wear blended materials in clothing?  Do you not cut your hair or shave any part of your body?  Let me guess, private catholic school or home schooling right?  Do you ignore scientific fact of evolution if you believe that God created people?  You must be a HUGE Sarah Palin fan.  Oh, and you’re also not supposed to read or spread gossip, so by you commenting on Clay Aiken’s personal life, you are a gossip and are breaking your own dogma.  I’m sure you’ll be first on the line for heaven, since you’re so great at following all of the rules of your own proclaimed love for christianity.


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Ember
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 11:16 am: [report]

lady wilma show me where in the bible it says you can be gay and still be a Christian.  You are deluding yourself.  And any gay person that believes this and knows Gods word could never say it. It specifically says a man will not lay with another man.  Suki you have no clue of God’s instruction.  I have yet to have anyone here demonstrate that they have any understanding of the word of God. Read the If you believe in God then read His word.  Then come back and tell me I’m wrong.  Praying for all of you.


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Leigh Raines
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 11:23 am: [report]

@ Ember, I think you need to open your mind and realize that other people have different beliefs than you.  Just because you are a Christian that doesn’t make you anymore valid in God’s eyes than a Buddhist, Jew, or Muslim, etc.  You seem to think that your views are superior and that it’s your way or no way.  How about you read the bill of rights and learn about freedom of religious beliefs.  Stop praying for us, stop thinking you are better than us, because your close mind is the only thing that worries me on this message board.  Nobody here needs the saving of someone so ignorant.


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Suki
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 11:23 am: [report]

Well first of all Ember, I’m not sure how much “laying” gay men do together, they are probably more active than that.  Second of all, what makes you an expert on God’s instruction?  And third of all, again, what is a self proclaimed “good christian” doing arguing on this website?  I think you need to go to confession asap and confess your sinful internet behavior.


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Serena
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 11:34 am: [report]

The biggest question on my mind is how did y’all not know he was gay!!!! are you blind/deaf/dumb?? IT’S THE GAYKEN!


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SinnerWoman
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 11:42 am: [report]

I would much rather be gay than a crazy Christian. So much more fun.


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Xysma
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 12:01 pm: [report]

No, God offers no explicitly endorsement of homosexuality.  He reserves that for eating poop:

“And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight. And the LORD said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them.” (Ezekiel 4:12-13)


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NOfanofANYONE
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 12:14 pm: [report]

EMBER….. Get your facts straight before you start trying to quote things. First off the very first bible ever written was written in Greek. This bible can be purchased at any Christian book store. In this bible it does not say ANYWHERE Man shall not sleep with Man… No Where…
Look in your bible…now YEs you will find it.. But I could also rewrite the bible and say anyone named Ember is a sinner… Hmmm Imagine that…

Also since your so good at quoting the bible maybe you should read the part about.. Thou shalt not judge…
If I am going to hell.. I will save you a seat…


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ed
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 12:41 pm: [report]

actually God calls it an abomination. Many of you are right, we should not judge him, or anyone else, God is the judge, but remember, God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve


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Stephiebear953
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 12:45 pm: [report]

Wow, such controversy over one man.  An amazing man, in fact.

I can not claim to know the bible well at all, but isn’t there something in there that says God forgives all sins?  I don’t think Clay is a sinner, but if you must think that way…I think of all the wonderful things he does and the organizations he aligns himself with.  If a fraction of the population contributed a fraction of what he does, the world would be a MUCH better place.

@Ember…you are a moron

@Suki…you are too funny.


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Suki
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 12:46 pm: [report]

Actually, god didn’t make anyone.  It’s a little something called evolution Ed.  We came from monkeys, not God.  You should move to alaska, I hear they like creationism and fake stories there.


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God's Messenger
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 12:52 pm: [report]

You cannot be a born again Christian and a homosexual.  any one that says their a born again christian and at the same time a homo sexual. Truly don’t know God. God doesn’t approve of such immoral behavior. homosexuality is completely against What God created at the beginning and for the future.  no matter the year God says he is the same, and never changes. so what makes people think that he approves of such immoral behavior. READ YOUR BIBLE PEOPLE! BEFORE YOU START MAKING STUPID COMMENTS. LIKE I’M A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN. LEARN WHAT GOD IS ALL ABOUT. BEFORE YOU SPEAK AND TELL SOMEONE THAT THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT THEIR TALKING ABOUT. READ AND LEARN ABOUT THE SUBJECT, BEFORE YOU GO AND SPIT OUT ALL THE IGNORANCE THAT IS IN YOUR HEAD.
THAT’S WHY SODOM AND GOMORRAH WERE DESTROYED. FOR ALL THE EVIL THAT WAS BEING DONE IN THE SIGHT OF GOD. I’M NOT SAYING THAT GOD DOES NOT LOVE THEM THAT PROFESS TO BE GAY, CAUSE HE DOES, WHAT I’M SAYING IS THAT HE DOESN’T LIKE THE SIN.LEVITICUS 18:22,20:13 AND MAYBE TO THOSE THAT THINK IT’S OK WITH GOD TO BE THIS WAY, IT’S 2008, WELL IT’S NOT. GOD NEVER CHANGES, AND IF YOU READ AND KNOW GOD, NO MATTER WHAT RELIGION YOU ARE. YOU KNOW THAT TO BE TRUE.YOU JUMP ALL OVER EMBER AND ALL THAT SHE IS TRYING TO EXPLAIN IS WHAT GOD SAYS AND TRYING TO GET YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW GOD AND BY ACCEPTING WHAT THIS WORLD IS COMING TO TRULY SHOWS THAT NONE OF YOU TRULY KNOW THE TRUE LOVING GOD THAT CREATED US, AS FRUITFUL MULTIPLYING CREATURES AS HE MADE US. SAME GENDERS CANNOT MULTIPLY AND THIS GAY MARRIAGE THING IS A CONTRACT BETWEEN 2 THAT TRULY DON’T KNOW GOD AND WHAT HE IS ALL ABOUT.  EMBER, YOU STAY STRONG AND KEEP READING THE WORD, BECAUSE WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE,AND JESUS COMES TO TAKE HIS PEOPLE HOME, I HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE. WE HAVE A SAYING IN OUR CHURCH. THAT WHEN THE LORD COMES TO TAKE US HOME, WE’LL ALL MEET UNDER THE MANGO TREE. I’LL MEET YOU UNDER THE MANGO TREE IN HEAVEN. BE STRONG AND GOD BLESS.


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God's Messenger
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 01:00 pm: [report]

lady wilma, you got it all wrong read the verse again.
if a man (man) lie with mankind,(man) as he lieth with a woman.(woman) both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.—Lev.20:13
in other words (if a man shall lie with a man,)  it’s an abomination in God’s eyes.


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Suki
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 01:11 pm: [report]

God’s Messenger - What’s with the caps?  Are you now fake yelling your beliefs down our throats?  And I’m Jewish, therefore to me, Jesus was just another jewish carpenter like anyone else and not the messiah, so I really doubt that he would be bringing me to heaven if I believed in that, so in your eyes, only people who follow your dogmatic view will get to the happy afterlife?  And besides, let’s applaud Clay Aiken for coming out, it was much braver than spewing religious beliefs by right wing christians on the internet.  Good for Clay for wanting ot be honest with the world, and more importantly, his child.


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Blair
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 01:11 pm: [report]

@ God’s Messenger. Tone it down you psycho.  When are you religious zealots going to understand that NOT EVERYONE LIVES THEIR LIVES ACCORDING THE THE BIBLE. You are on a sex website. Understand your audience.


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Piper
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 01:13 pm: [report]

Um, God’s Messenger, just one question.  Are you gay?  Seems to me that the only people that get this defensive about something are those that are trying to hide something.  It’s ok, we’re supportive here if you want to come out.


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kim
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 01:34 pm: [report]

PEOPLE…....WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!
Don’t any of you have more important things in life than to worry about someone else’s sexualtiy?  If they aren’t sleeping in YOUR bed….what does it matter to you???


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Stephiebear953
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 01:38 pm: [report]

@God’s Messenger

How the hell can you possibly think you can interpret the bible when you can’t even string a sentence together correctly?


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NOfanofANYONE
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 02:09 pm: [report]

AGAIN… READ THE FIRST BIBLE EVER WRITTEN…

THAT VERSE IS NOT IN THERE….

God’s Messenger… If you truley are God’s Messenger…
HEAVEN HELP US… because I dont think what you are preaching is what God would say.


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duckie
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 03:44 pm: [report]

@Ember, have you ever sinned?  I do not identify as a Christian, but I think that in the bible it says something like Judge not, that ye be not judged” and the whole sermon on the mount, in Matthew, which I’m sure you know way way more about than me because you are so the righteous christian.
So even if you identify being gay as a sin…


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Becky
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 04:08 pm: [report]

I also knew he was gay but I still was 100% for him when he was on American Idol and still am.  I love his voice and it doesn’t matter to me one bit.  I am glad he was runner up.  I was routing for him from the beginning.


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Tom
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 04:14 pm: [report]

I believe that gods word is truth but i also believe that everone has a right to choose.god is our judge not people.I was gay but iam know happily married so god can change people i believe that.Best wishes clay.


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Dan
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 06:38 pm: [report]

Tom,
What do you mean that you “were gay”?  You can’t change what you are, you may believe a lie and live a lie but you are still gay.  I am sorry for your wife because you cannot please her as she needs.  You may have sex with her but you are not making love to her.  You are praticing a lie, and she is the one suffering.  You are advertising a lie!!  My heart goes out to your wife… go suck a big one like you really want!


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Ember
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 07:06 pm: [report]

duckie—being a Christian is about loving Jesus, having the faith in Him that he died for us so that we could live on after leaving this life.  It is also about repentance of our sins.  Yes we all sin.  But knowing that and repenting of that sin is what it’s all about.  And Jesus can give us the strength we need to do it.  To say you’re a Christian and living each day with a sin you won’t repent from is not knowing God.  If you truly know Jesus you want to be more like Him and please Him.  Therefore, acknowledge sin and make change.  Believe it or not I am not a religious person—but I do love our Lord and am so thankful for all he does for me.  Just read the New Testament—it will fill you with knowledge and God will speak to you and your life will change.  Love God.  Peace to all.


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Michele Hammond
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 07:25 pm: [report]

All I want to say is that all of the people who are quoting a Bible they claim not to believe in is that you keep saying that Ember is sinning by “judging” Clay but isn’t that “judging” her? And she never said he did not have the right to choose to live the way he wants to live. Neither does God. But like any other choice we make in life there are consequences or results. Just as you believe that you came from a monkey, WE beleve in creation. I am a fan of God. It is my choice and as an American it is my right.


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get it right
wrote on September 25 2008 @ 08:45 pm: [report]

you all need to get a life and sit down and read the bible front cover to back cover. no church out their covers the whole bible they all just pick the parts that you all pay them to twist and turn until your happy and think your not going to end up in hell just remmember one thing when you die. they put you in the ground not in the sky. i dont judge people by what i believe in so why do you….


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nObama08
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 12:02 am: [report]

This is so laughable, you can so easily tell who the wacked out liberals are here. The side of filth and “anything goes”.  Ember, don’t worry about these freak shows, they just need to do one thing…next time you claymaniacs put on a Clay song, why don’t you visualize Clay going down on another guy. Now don’t forget… do it ok, you know you will now.  When he sings he wishes he was a fly on a wall, imagine yourself as a fly on the wall in his next meeting with another guy undressing him.  Maybe this picture will stick in your brain like I want it to.  Picture him going down on a guy, reading the bible….absolutely rediculous!  Now I have to throw out his Christmas CD…thanks CLAY, I want my $10 back.  (by the way, I made it filthy, cause that’s all the libs understand)


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Hhmm, Really?!
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 07:52 am: [report]

WOW is the first thing that comes to my mind!!??

Here’s a question for everyone…do you feel as strongly about those who commit ANY sin? Do you know anyone in your chuch who claims to be a “born again christian” who lies (we all lie multiple times everyday…even clergy!), who bears false witness, who envys, who commits adultry, who doesn’t honor their father & mother? I would think that unless you also hate these people…and yourself (b/c even you sin everyday…over & over) then you should really stop & think about the fact that you’ve chosen one sin & decided that it’s the “ultimate” sin & are continuing to encourage judgement & hate for your fellow man.

Homosexuality, for one isn’t even addressed in the 10 commandments, so once everyone has mastered the 1st 10 steps, then we can focus on the other stuff!  Until then, how about creating a little more acceptance & peace in this world…especially at church & any other religious environment & support each other & leave each person to worry about his/her soul & redemtion?  Ultimately, it is up to each individual to struggle daily with their own relationship with or without God…it’s no one else’s place to judge or be concerned with.  God may have created Adam & Eve, but even though they were created in His image, they were unable to resist temptation & there was only one serpent…look at all the temptation today! Until you are able to say you are not a sinner, you have no place judging others…pray for yourself & others to be closer to God, but NOT for others to stop sinning!  Anyone can be a christian…they simply must ask God into their hearts…doesn’t say ANYTHING about never sinning!!


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Ember
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 09:02 am: [report]

A little crude but ditto to you nObama.  And Really—get REAL!!  What do you think Sodom and Gomora was about?  Why did God destroy that entire city in such a way that when Salem’s wife turned to look at the city (after God instructed her not to) she turned into a pillar of salt.  There was such perversion and man would not repent that God destroyed that city.  Sure anyone can come to Jesus—but if that person is serious he/she will repent of of their sins and follow Jesus and stay in God’s will.  We all fall short, but we pick ourselves up and look to God for strength and care on.  We do not expect God to accept our ongoing lifestyle perversions.  God loves all His creation, but he is also a just God.


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Ember
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 09:05 am: [report]

I am hurrying when I post here so excuse spellings and some words—trying to read this and do reports at the same time.


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YWT2004
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 09:32 am: [report]

WOW! How one man can cause so much discusion !!  I have to say that I too am a born again Christain , but I support Clay and any other person that is going through this very private time of their lives.  I truly believe that it is not up to us to judge , only to love .  IMO Clay Aiken is one phenominal singer and entertainer .  I have been for 5 years a very devoted , dedicated and yes drooling fan and I will continue to do so until the last breath that I have in my body .  A person is so much more than who’s bed they put their shoes under ..(I just wish it were mine with Clay !! LOL!) .


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jfb
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 10:33 am: [report]

Oh please, the next time you read Leviticus 18:22, please flip back a few pages to Leviticus 9:10 to 12, where it states, THREE TIMES IN A ROW, that eating shellfish is also an abomination. Do you repent every time you have a crabcake or a shrimp cocktail? I am a Christian, and I believe in the Bible, but you can’t take it at face value, I mean please, it is thousands of years old and has been subject to numerous handdowns and translations. The only way to figure out the true word of God is if you go through it intelligently and take each part IN ITS ORIGINAL CONTEXT, taking into account different translations and what they would have meant at the time they were written.
Oh and PS, Sodom and Gomorrah’s sin was not simply homosexuality….the men said they wanted to “get to know” the angels…which is ambiguous. And even if you can take it in a sexual way, we would be talking about gang rape, not just homosexuality. Plus the fact that Lot offered his virgin daughters to the men….there’s a whole mess of things going on that you don’t seem to know about.


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lilo
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 10:51 am: [report]

@Ember: You’re trying to “do reports at the same time.” I assume this means you’re working. I think it’s a sin to do things other than work when you’re getting paid for a job. My read on anyone who is so vehemently against homosexuality probably has a little bit of homo-lust inside screaming to get out. It’s okay. As with Clay, it can take awhile to feel okay about it. We’re here for you when you feel more comfortable with your attractions.


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Stephiebear953
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 10:54 am: [report]

@Hhmm, Really?!...Well said!

It just amazes me that someone could be a fan of Clay’s and then suddenly hate him because of this.

He’s still the same person, he still has a great voice, he’s still a wonderful entertainer.  How has that changed?

That’s like one of my friends not telling me something about themselves and after revealing it I now instantly hate them.

I peronally think the bible is very ambigious.  It was written by men.  There were very limited numbers of scholors back then and who knows if they got the interpretation right in the first place, not to mention the many translations and interpretations since.  It stuns me how 10 people can read a passage from the bible and get 10 different meanings.  Maybe this is how it was supposed to be, so people can have comfort and the answers they seek in the bible and everyone can interpret it to their lives and problems.

I don’t think most of the bible is supposed to be taken LITERLLY.  The problems they faced when it was written are far different than we face now. 

If god didn’t want the world to face the issue of homosexuality, he should make sure that babies aren’t born with whatever gene/pre-disposition/hormone that makes them gay in the first place.

How dare people stand up on their soap box and judge others that way.  It’s not their right.

And no, we aren’t judging people like Ember for judging others, we’re telling them to stop!


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NOfanofANYONE
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 10:59 am: [report]

Actually Stephiebear… I dont want Ember to stop judging me… If I am going to hell for loving someone of the same sex… I am going to need company and with her juding me… that is one sure way get a front row seat….

Should I bring the popcorn Ember ???  :0)


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patsy
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 11:09 am: [report]

You would think that it was the end of the world now
that Clay has admitted to being gay.  Isn’t Clay the
same guy you screemed at and bought his music etc?
You all quote from the Bible.  You forgot one quote
that Jesus said, “He who is without sin cast the first
stone”.  You all need to look at yourself first and
see what you are hiding.  It had to be very difficult
for Clay to come forward and admit he was gay.  Clay
probably will lose some fans, BUT, IF YOU ARE A TRUE
FAN, you will stand behind him.  Clay is now a father
and wants to raise his son right so give Clay the
respect that he deserves.  I myself am a 66 year old
grandmother, who loved Clay from the start, belong
to the fan club and will continue to support Clay.
Clay hasn’t change except for the better and we have
no right to judge, only God.


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Lilah
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 11:58 am: [report]

This chapter of the Bible also is against it too. Romans Chapter 1 verse 27. It says In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed in the lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for ther perversion. I am not judging I am just saying what the Bible said and if you are a Christian and really living as one and following it then I think you would do what it says.


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NOfanofANYONE
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 12:02 pm: [report]

HEY LOOK Stephie… Lilah wants a seat next to me also…

:0)


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Stephiebear953
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 12:05 pm: [report]

@NOfan…It’s gonna get pretty crowded if you don’t watch out…:)


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Disappointed
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 12:22 pm: [report]

Ember,  I’m with you, girl!  Don’t pay any attention to the lies that people choose to believe and live their lives with.
The Bible is the only truth.  Jesus loves all mankind, but, all mankind is not saved UNLESS they choose to make Jesus Savior AND LORD of their lives.  Period.  No discussion.  No arguments.  God said it and that makes it so.  If you don’t LIKE IT, take it up with HIM!!!!

Clay is in need of repentance and deliverance.  Homosexuality is not “normal”, “something you’re born with” or healthy.  It is a perversion of what God created for men and women to enjoy, married and together.
Like it or lump it people.  Truth is still truth be it 2008 or any other time.

I with the believers here who are not ashamed to stand up for what is TRUE and GODLY!!!~


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NOfanofANYONE
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 12:33 pm: [report]

LOOK ANOTHER member… I think I need to break out more chairs Stephie.. lol…


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Wow-Amazed
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 12:36 pm: [report]

Amen to Ember and Disappointed.


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NOfanofANYONE
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 01:19 pm: [report]

MY FAN CLUB IS UP TO 4.. Wooooo Hooooooo….


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Suki
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 01:48 pm: [report]

Wow, since all the right wing conservative christians seem to follow a piece of literature like the bible so closely, I am now going to follow literature too!  I am officially a wizard like Harry Potter!  That is my new dogma, magic exists.  Oh wait, I guess that is pretty close to the bible.  Grow out of the ignorance people and let everyone live their life as they see fit.  Clay Aiken being gay isn’t hurting anyone.  he’s finally living his life honestly.  I suggest you all do that.  If you are going to follow that one part of the bible so closely, I suggest you do the same with all the parts.  No more hair cuts, swearing, eating meat on certain days, and I really hope you all go to church every day and pray for your sins.  Stop being ignorant and join reality with the rest of us.


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Serena
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 02:10 pm: [report]

giggity giggity giggity, i’m a CRAZYYYYYY LIBERAL!!!!!! AHHHHHHHH!!!!!! Hey why are all of you bible thumpers on a sex website anyway? Are you trying to convert us? Cause I don’t think I’ll be taking any advice from people who can’t even spell.  I don’t even like Clay Aiken’s music, I think American Idol is a sin of annoyance.  I’m just on this amusing board to listen to all of you psychotic religious zealots rant on about Jesus being the only truth you know.  And you want some of our crazyyyyyy liberal comments here goes: this isn’t a motherf*cken prayer group, get your bible quotes out of this sh*t. I’m gonna go read an article about penis piercings now. Peace.


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NOfanofANYONE
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 02:14 pm: [report]

SERENA….. I know your on my side of this and I want you to join me and my followers (Ember,Lilah,Disapointed and Wow Amazed) to hell…. I like your style… Join me… :0)


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Serena
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 02:15 pm: [report]

NOfanofANYONE i’m so down.


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Suki
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 02:15 pm: [report]

Nofan,...if you’re going to preach on the internet, at least use the proper form of the word “you’re” while trying to convert followers.  No one takes poor grammar seriously.


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NOfanofANYONE
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 02:16 pm: [report]

WOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO .... I have 5 now… Stephie… Check it out… :0)


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NOfanofANYONE
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 02:19 pm: [report]

Preach ??? NO no preaching here… That is to close to talking about the Bible… You’re, Your or you are WHO CARES… you got the jist of it didnt you ???

God these people SAVE THEM….


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Suki
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 02:28 pm: [report]

Ha sorry Nofan, I’m tired and I was misreading what you were writing.  I’m just a stickler for grammar.  Good for you for standing up to the religious nut jobs.  grin


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NOfanofANYONE
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 02:34 pm: [report]

@ Suki… its cool .... Hey can I add you to my fan club :0)


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Suki
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 02:38 pm: [report]

Depends.  Is this your fictional fan club including Ember of those who judge other people based on the fictional bible?  Or those who are standing against the bible thumpers like serena and myself and are happy in our so called “liberal crazy ways?”  Because I love being a liberal who accepts all those crazy things like gay marriage and all that fun stuff.


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The Frisky
wrote on September 26 2008 @ 03:28 pm: [report]

The comments on this thread have gotten to the point where they’re violating our Terms Of Use. So we’re shutting them off for this particular post. Go off and spread your Clay love or hate elsewhere! xoxo, The Frisky


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