Doin’ It With Dr. V: How To Blow An Uncut Man’s Mind
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12:00PM, Monday September 7th 2009
The Frisky’s own Leonora has just moved to France, and we miss her already! She’s having all kinds of new experiences, I’m sure. Fondling haute couture, chowing down on cheese and baguette, and, of course, falling for some handsome gentlemen. But being a nice Jewish girl, I have a feeling Leo the lover has never come head-to-head, er face-to-face, with an uncircumcised guy. And just like a lot of foreign films that come out of Europe, they’re uncut. So, I’m going to give our fair Leo some pointers on how to manhandle her future friends with foreskin.
That hoodie on his penis head is a pleasure center. It’s full of nerves, even more nerves than your average circumcised guy. While those additional nerves can create extra feeling, they also create extra sensitivities. Basically, it’s the man clit. So, tease it with your tongue and even your fingers, but be gentle, baby. Don’t go all Hoover vacuum on him or he’ll think you really suck.
One technique that really hits the spot is circling the inside of the foreskin with your tongue. You can also lightly massage the head with your thumb and pointer finger. But don’t go pressing too hard—again, stay soft with the touch. No one likes getting their hot button prodded, all it needs is a delicate stroke to be a delight.
Now, some guys can’t handle too much attention being paid to their intact tip, so don’t take it personally if he wants you to back off! Always respect your partner’s wishes and no need to get embarrassed. Rest assured, letting him know you’re willing to go the distance can never be a bad thing.
But the truth is, it might be hard to tell if your hot piece is circumcised when he’s up for some action. Once a penis is locked and loaded, the foreskin rolls back on its own. However, sometimes it can stay put; so as you’re playing around down there, you may need to move it away from the high-traffic tip. Be sure to ask for permission first, then carefully slip it back a teeny bit. Don’t push is past the head and don’t be forceful. Easy does it!
An added bonus to hooking up with an uncircumcised guy is they’re rarely obsessed with deep throating. Bonus! Well, at least that’s what I’ve found in my experience; although, I’ve never heard a guy complain about getting a blow job, so you’re pretty much safe no matter which way you wanna work it. But since they’ve got so much going on at their end, my advice on how to handle an uncircumcised man is focus on the tip and you’ll be in top form. And Leo, thanks to your sexy skills and undeniable hotness, we know you’re going to be the best Ambassador to France that America has ever had!
Hi, I’m Dr. V. I’m not a real doctor; I just play one on the internet. What I am is a lady, a lady who is a fool for love! And I love nothing more than sex. My deepest desires have happily led me on many adventures in the sack, but they have also, sadly, made me one of my gyno’s most valuable players. But I’ve lived to tell the tale(s)! So, from time to time, I will dish the dirt on everything from getting freaky to getting freaked-out. And please, if you have a question, email me. You know I love to read your smut too!
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Wrigley
wrote on September 7 2009 @ 12:02 pm: [report]
LOL at this. Don’t you understand that everybody is different, that not all guys will like this? It’s best to ask your partner what he/she likes. Such generalizations of uncircumcised guys. Please, if you read this take into account it is just that, one persons experience.
develange
wrote on September 7 2009 @ 04:38 pm: [report]
Agreed.
Are foreskins really that hard to identify? Maybe if it’s dark in the room. Also, I didn’t think uncircumcized guys were that uncommon in the US…most women I know have seen at least one in their encounters.
It seems like media and porn are to blame for some women being scared of uncut peen. It is weird, yes, and can be gross if the guy had bad hygiene. But there needs to be more acceptance and exposure of uncircumcized penis!! (or..whatever the plural is, I forget).
Restoring Tally
wrote on September 7 2009 @ 05:17 pm: [report]
I am not intact, but I have restored my foreskin after being circumcised as an infant. With my restored foreskin, I really appreciate the treatment you describe above. It is a big difference from before I restored my foreskin. As a circumcised guy I never could get off from oral. But, with my restored foreskin - WOW! And to be treated as you describe above, WOW WOW!
You nailed how to do it very well. What you describe above drives me up the wall, much more than before I restored. If circumcised guys knew what it felt like to have a foreskin, routine infant circumcisions would stop immediately.
CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 7 2009 @ 06:38 pm: [report]
@Restoring Tally: Nah, I’ll stick with the dick I have not the one you want me to have.
TLCTugger
wrote on September 7 2009 @ 11:36 pm: [report]
Before I restored my foreskin, my wife could never finish me orally. Now she can easily as often as she likes.
I especially like when she bunches up my skin in front of the glans and kneads it with her lips and when she plungers tongue between the glans and skin tube and swirls around.
My wife also says the plush frictionless feeling of the slack skin rolling around is great during intercourse. It used to be that it took me so long to finish that she would be rubbed raw and then need a few days off. Now we can make love every day no problem.
Typewriter
wrote on September 8 2009 @ 11:14 am: [report]
Are you kidding? My uncut boy loves deep throat!
roastchicken
wrote on September 8 2009 @ 01:00 pm: [report]
@ cheese: I’ll gladly take a cut guy over uncut any day!
I’ll probably upset some people by admitting this, but uncircumcised peens gross me out. Yes, I had an ex that was uncut, and it felt no different. At all. Doesn’t feel any better. I don’t get that argument at all. It’s the look of it that turns me off the most. To each his own I guess.
TLCTugger
wrote on September 8 2009 @ 01:24 pm: [report]
^^ It’s the look of it that turns me off the most. ^^
If this quote was an African man talking about prefering cut female genitals, would the author be a monster?
Monster.
CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 8 2009 @ 01:33 pm: [report]
@TLCTugger: I prefer what I’m toting.
@Frisky: I vote to ban circ/uncirc discussions. All we get are crazy people, people trying to sell crap, and FGM yelling.
workerbee
wrote on September 8 2009 @ 02:30 pm: [report]
Hmmmm…I was gonna join in with my opinion, but not when we’re getting anti-circ people here and comparisons to FGM.
theattack
wrote on September 8 2009 @ 03:34 pm: [report]
I’ve never encountered an uncut penis, and I’ve been hoping to hear some basic tips like that, so thanks Dr. V! And I definitely didn’t know it was possible to restore a cut penis. Franken-foreskin!
roastchicken
wrote on September 8 2009 @ 05:27 pm: [report]
@ TLCtug: I’m sure you’re not ignorant enough to think what you said actually proved some kind of point. Who are you to try and tell me, or any woman for that matter, what turns them on/off is wrong? I’d like to think we ALL have our own personal preferences. Yes, there are tons of men out there that prefer bigger boobs on a woman, but I don’t choose to actually get offended by it. LAME!
@ workerbee: Why do they think it’s exactly the same?
@ cheese: I totally agree.
retro chic
wrote on September 8 2009 @ 06:49 pm: [report]
@TLCTugger: here’s some uncut reading material for you that you may have missed the first (second, third, fourth…) time around. Fertile ground for you. The amazing thing is, no matter what the topic, they all go to your favorite subject! Yay! So go forth (now) and be merry.
Oddest Penis: [Oh, that ones a doozy… declines fast]
http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-whats-the-oddest-penis-youve-ever-encountered/
FGM: [If you didn’t get enough from “Oddist Penis” you’re in luck!
http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-finally-uganda-will-outlaw-female-circumcision/
Reverse Circ: [made to order, TLC! Party of 1… # of comments: “0”]
“Some circumcised men miss their foreskin so much that some are having it reconstructed.” http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-the-daily-squeeze-reverse-circumcision-sarah-palins-tote-bag-and-russel/
Actual linked article: Men.Style.com
http://men.style.com/details/blogs/details/2008/09/gimme-some-skin.html#more
@roastchicken and @workerbee: Shhh… they need no encouragement.
TLCTugger
wrote on September 8 2009 @ 10:05 pm: [report]
^ Who are you to try and tell me, or any woman for that matter, what turns them on/off is wrong? ^
- - - - -
It’s not wrong, people tend to prefer what they’re used to.
It’s just monstrously insensitive of you to say out loud that you prefer a man who is missing half his pleasure-receptive nerve endings and 15 square inches of the surface that should be interfacing with you. Not to mention the risk (for unexpected outcomes) he was subjected to in order to get into that state for you. Google “circumcsion damage” and browse a few pages of images, and know that these hideous disfigurements don’t even count among the published rate of infant circumcision complications. Infant circumcision is 27 times deadlier than the Gardasil vaccine.
Don’t dare tell me that male and female genital cutting are different. The male and female genitals are indistinguishable until 3 months gestation. Amuptation of the foreskin is 100% comparable to fully removing the clitoral hood and labia minora AND drying out the vagina so that natural lubrication is impossible.
The main difference between FGM and MGM is that 94% of the world’s females are protected by law from even a mere pinprick that draws a ceremonial drop of blood, with no religious exception.
About 80% of the world’s men have a foreskin. Foreskin feels REALLY good. If you dealt with a foreskin you didn’t like, keep trying. Don’t give up on 80% of the human race.
_jsw_
wrote on September 8 2009 @ 11:09 pm: [report]
@TLCTugger: I didn’t realize that 80% of the “human” race (and here I was, thinking all races were human) had foreskins. That’s pretty interesting. I’m guessing, then, that many of them are cross-dressers, and I’ve been extraordinarily lucky to have not encountered any that I thought were women but who were actually foreskin-equipped men.
I’m not circumcised. My two brothers are. We all seem to be relatively normal. I haven’t experienced screams of fright or women who vomited upon seeing me, and they’ve been able, as far as I know, to somehow manage to have orgasms.
bettyboo
wrote on September 9 2009 @ 02:36 am: [report]
gulbadan - not sure how this one fits in the topic to be honest, but some shared genetic info (we shared approximately 60% of our DNA with drosophila) does not mean shared behaviour, after all, are you drawn to lay your eggs on overripe bananas?
On the cut/uncut debate.. on the aesthetic front, i really don’t see the issue.. When he’s ready for action they look very similar as the foreskin retracts anyway, and in my experience, when you first meet a new penis it’s ready for action.. ;0) If you’re so shallow as to reject a guy after the fact on just that aspect then i pity you.. Personally, I think if i had a little boy and someone wanted to come near him with a scalpel then they’d better have a good medical reason, but i’m from the UK and I’ve only ever encountered one cut guy (my first BF, done due to some medical problem in childhood rather than infancy i believe, and it took me ages to realise there was something missing as I’d only really seen family members floppy and him erect.. :0P). All else being equal I’d definitely choose uncut, more to play with and you can be a bit gentler with it with less lube.. I also love taking my guy in my mouth when he’s still flacid and feeling the lovely soft foreskin with my lips and tongue before he grows and it slips back.. ;0) and yes, uncut guys definitely enjoy deep throat.. :0)
yesaguy
wrote on September 9 2009 @ 05:34 am: [report]
well, it is all based on the guy on how sensitive the tip is. women are not all the same, nor are all guys. Any of my friends that are women can say that, since are group of friends is very open with sex talk ( only talk ). I will say very true i dont know any of my buddies or myself that would say no to a b.j. but i must say i love going down on a women. when you know you can please the women your with, with only your mouth ( well i know when she gets me that way, i just want her so much more ) pluse most women have the cuttiest movements and twitching of the body as it seems they grab for a handle around but their is only a wall and a head board. just seeeing a women react in that way is almost enough in it self. but for cut/uncut penis ( im cut and the tip is most deff a highly sensitive spot. but once again that is just my thought.
TLCTugger
wrote on September 9 2009 @ 08:01 am: [report]
“Don’t give up on 80% of the human race.”
^^ foreskins. That’s pretty interesting. I’m guessing, then, that many of them are cross-dressers ^^
FYI, ALL mammals, male and female, have a foreskin. In the female it is the clitoral prepuce (hood).
theattack
wrote on September 9 2009 @ 06:25 pm: [report]
The difference in male circumcision and female genital mutilation is the reason it’s done. FGM is done so that men have control over the woman’s genitals. It can take away ALL possibility for pleasure for the woman when it’s done, but as I’m certain all cut men on The Frisky can confirm, men can still feel pleasure after they’re circumcised. And it’s not like women are putting men’s circumcised penises on lockdown, ripping off their foreskins with shards of glass. Female Genital Mutilation is done with malicious intent.
I’m not defending male circumcision, as I’m not entirely sure what my thoughts are on it yet, but the two are definitely not equal.
_jsw_
wrote on September 9 2009 @ 06:43 pm: [report]
@TLCTugger: A foreskin is a prepuce. A clitoral hood is a prepuce. But a clitoral hood is not a foreskin.
@theattack: Agreed. Very different things.
roastchicken
wrote on September 9 2009 @ 08:45 pm: [report]
@ retro chick: I’m not going to throw flame on the fire at all. I don’t care whether someone’s for or against circ’s but I wouldn’t stoop so low as to call someone a monster for having a preference. So what, I’m not f*cking him so why the hell does what I prefer bother him so much? But honestly NO ONE on this earth has the right to tell me that I shouldn’t have a preference as to what I decide to have inside MY body. End of story.
I work in an operating room and I see all of the patients that come in for circ’s because something’s gone wrong with their foreskin and it’s gotten to the point where it’s ‘medically necessary’ to remove it, or they just choose to be cut. Just this past Saturday, I assisted a Urologist in performing those circ’s, and you know what, I had no problem helping him do it. If that makes me a monster for doing my job, and giving those patients what they want or in some cases need….then I only have one thing to say…
Rawr!
retro chic
wrote on September 9 2009 @ 09:35 pm: [report]
@roastchicken – I gotcha, no worries. I’m only lamenting the entire thread in general which has the same familiar stale odor as the others I listed above for the pro-uncirc missionaries here. My aside to you and workerbee was an attempt at subtle humor.
[remote in hand, late-night surfing in upper cable channels (Frisky posts)] “What Men Think About Circumcision.” Eh. Another. Already seen this one. [about 80 times]
TLCTugger
wrote on September 9 2009 @ 10:20 pm: [report]
^^ I work in an operating room and I see all of the patients that come in for circ’s ^^
So if I worked for an oncologist and scrubbed in on mastectomies it wouldn’t be sick and wrong for me to state a preference for women with scars on their chests? Of course it’s not wrong to provide elective amputative surgery to someone who has requested it, assuming they’ve had a psych consult if it’s cosmetic or a reliable diagnosis if it’s medical.
Only about 2 in 1000 intact adults chooses circumcision and only about 1 in 10,000 adult men or women actually needs a circumcision for medical reasons (to treat LS/BXO that does not respond to Protopic ointment). Outside the US the foreskin is treated like other body parts; amputation is a last resort when other remedies have been tried and failed.
Blue Cross paid for surgical female circumcision (including to children) until the late 70s. Nobody was held down, healing was sterile with pain relief. It was done with possibly good-hearted (and sick) intentions to help the patient be less nervous or stop masturbating. Did that make it right? Read The Rape of Innocence.
A foreskin is a prepuce. A clitoral hood is a prepuce. AND a clitoral hood is a foreskin. Duh.
It’s damn near impossible to know how many babies die from circumcision, but it’s been estimated at 100-200 per year in the US. It’s hard to know due to cases like the one today in the UK; they finally ruled that a baby who turned blue and coughed up blood within a half-hour of being circumcised at 8 days old (and then died after being pulled from life-support another 8 days later) died of natural causes. This seems to have been a ruling to protect the rabbi and the ambulance company from liability, and I’m actually OK with that part. They acted within the law. It’s the law that must change. But the fact is if the family had slept in that morning and never had the baby cut he would have been alive at least a bunch longer.
It’s also hard to know how many guys have been seriously disfigured by infant circumcision (again Google “circumcision damage” to see the horror). And I don’t know if you’ll see this because I don’t see people posting links here, but trust me this is a picture of a Malaysian youth trying to avoid being taken away to a mass circumcision: http://tlctugger.com/images/MalaysianRefusnik.jpg.
Babies and young men die from male circumcision. It disfigures and reduces sexual function. It is done without informed consent and often by force. It is justifed by tradition, appearance, and “medical reasons” even though no national medical association of doctors on earth (not even Israel’s) endorses routine infant circumcision. What’s the difference with respect to FGM again? Does it matter? Is amputating a little of someone’s body OK, but a little more is wrong? Where do you draw the line? The line of sanctity must be drawn around the body of every person - No involuntary cosmetic amputations. The line for FGM is drawn at zero tolerance. Why not the same protection for boys?
roastchicken
wrote on September 9 2009 @ 11:15 pm: [report]
@ TLC: Do you really think I actually read anything you have to say? Seriously. You’re only making yourself look like an idiot. We obviously live on two completely different sides of the fence..or in your case completely different planets.
You really should visit Earth sometime hun.
And I’m done!
retro chic
wrote on September 9 2009 @ 11:23 pm: [report]
TLCTugger: Can you please redirect your canned trolling rant to at least a *relevant* topic/post with a more receptive audience on this site?
“What Men Think About Circumcision:”
http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-quickies-090909/
CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 10 2009 @ 07:24 am: [report]
[CITATION NEEDED]
Chris519
wrote on September 10 2009 @ 12:18 pm: [report]
How convenient. It seems we are of the same mind, Roastchicken.
“But honestly NO ONE on this earth has the right to tell me that I shouldn’t have a preference as to what I decide to have inside MY body. End of story.”
This sticks out to me, because the same absolutionist mindset and logic can be perfectly (and reasonably) applied to the penis that I own.
As a man, NOBODY had the right in allowing a doctor to cut up my genitals when there was no medical need all in the name of cosmetics. End of discussion.
To be on topic, I for one would have loved to be in possession of all the parts this article speaks of. That’s my preference, and NOT A ONE on this earth can overrule it. Period.
I’m sorry, but so long as behavior like this exists… The very nature of it is going to stir up limitless controversy. Don’t like it? DEAL WITH IT!
onewriter
wrote on September 10 2009 @ 12:19 pm: [report]
@everyone. Freaking take a breath already! TLC is correct, but everyone can have whatever opinion they wish-misguided or not. That’s called “free will”.
FYI:10 years ago, the AMA decided that circumcision was NOT necessary. Not everybody has caught up with that. It is the parent’s job to be informed and deal with the doctors. Hopefully, before too long, there will be no more mutilation done and only the NEED for surgery will be the REASON for such.
How we went from “how to make an uncut man thrill” to “which is bad, circumcision or no circumcision” is beyond me.
Queen Frostine
wrote on September 10 2009 @ 12:38 pm: [report]
According the the World Health Organization (WHO), there is a proven medical benefit for male circumcision. For that reason, I believe it should remain a legal option and not considered mutilation.
http://www.who.int/hiv/topics/malecircumcision/en/index.html
“There is compelling evidence that male circumcision reduces the risk of heterosexually acquired HIV infection in men by approximately 60%. Three randomized controlled trials have shown that male circumcision provided by well trained health professionals in properly equipped settings is safe.”
“The World Health Organization also says circumcision has the potential to dramatically reduce the toll of the HIV virus, averting an estimated 5.7 million new infections and three million deaths over the next 20 years in sub-Saharan Africa alone.”
TLCTugger
wrote on September 10 2009 @ 02:08 pm: [report]
^^ compelling evidence that male circumcision reduces the risk of heterosexually acquired HIV infection in men by approximately 60%. Three randomized controlled trials… ^^
See, they said MEN, not babies.
And the trials were NOT randomized at all. Every test subject sought to be circumcised. And they were not well controlled. The cut men had multiple encounters with white coats with the opportunity to get more free condoms and reminders about safe sex, while the men left intact were counseled only at the beginning. And far more men dropped out of the studies (status unknown) than contracted HIV. And the cut men DID contract HIV at a rate six times higher than the rate of new infections for African-American men. And the HIV+ cut men were 50% MORE LIKELY TO INFECT THEIR PARTNERS than the HIV+ men they left intact. And all three trials were cut short of their agreed upon protocol periods by up to 75%, exaggerating the effect of the cut men’s post-surgical period of abstinence for healing.
And the conclusions don’t even follow from the data even if you can believe the data. Plenty of scientists - from Australia to the UK - have tried to point this out to UNAIDS and the WHO, but they just seem to want more of Bill Gates’ money to set up clinics and do more studies.
Most of the US men who have died of AIDS were circumcised at birth. The US, where most sexually active adults over the last few decades were circumcised, has three times the HIV incidence that Europe (where hardly anyone is circumcised) has.
The Australian RACP has already analyzed these three randomized controlled trials and revised their policy to specifically state that they do not justify circumcising infants. Canada, UK, South Africa, and on and on, not swayed.
But when would adult STD data EVER be relevant to an infant’s right to be left intact and make his own informed decision based on the best science available when unsafe sex becomes relevant to him?
develange
wrote on September 10 2009 @ 05:41 pm: [report]
but but but…what happened to talking about giving au natural penises blowjobs and stuff? things got so serious.
I think now it’s more of a social norm thing than a health thing. It’s a piece of skin, yeah, maybe you have to spend more time washing it, but people should get over it.
I probably won’t circumcise my kid, and if people are gonna give him crap about it later on in life, I’ll teach him to tell them to go #&@$% themselves.
I think cutting off your baby’s foreskin is creepy. As pretty as an uncircumcized peen looks, it’s not that big of a deal.
onewriter
wrote on September 10 2009 @ 11:12 pm: [report]
I just talked to a friend of mine who isn’t sliced up…lol and he said this article is correct. So. I guess if we want to do it right, that’s a good place to start.
Chris519
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 01:23 am: [report]
@ Develange.
I wish my own parents were as sympathetic and sensible as you concerning the issue. I wish I had the choice. Between that cruel fact of life (and my emotions) combined with how circumcision advocates typically blow off any kind of negative opinion towards circumcision such as mine as being somehow invalid, that’s probably why it gets to be so heated.
gingerlove
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 02:47 am: [report]
I had 3 years of an uncut man (boy) when I was in my late teens. Then 25 years of a cut man. Now I am back with the first. I can tell you that there is NO comparison. Uncut all the way baby! Better for him.. Better for me. And thank you for the tips. I’ve tried them and they were met with extreme enthusiasm!
onewriter
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 05:43 am: [report]
@gingerlove GOOD! I’m going to make sure I do this stuff too, as my friend was adamant that it’s good information.
hereshestands
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 06:03 am: [report]
All this discussion over foreskin. Wow. Who cares if it’s cut or uncut! At least you’re gettin some. Right?
PotteryGirl
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 11:05 am: [report]
@hereshestands - at last - a voice of reason.
Cut, uncut…who cares? Accept what you have, have what you accept…lets just all get back to having good oral.
(I would like to add that I’ve never been with an uncut man. Not on purpose or with any intent. I now may troll a bar this evening wearing a tshirt that says, “Uncut need only apply”. I want to know what I’m missing!)
Chris519
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 02:34 pm: [report]
Voice of reason..? More like a voice of distraction. I care, along with so many others. I’m hardly the first one to speak out about this.
Thing is, NONE should have to accept the fact that somebody elses opinion of how their own genitalia should be remodeled led to them being forcibly deprived the opportunity to experience life one way. That’s the case for men cut in infancy. Every man should be allowed to experience what this article describes in full. It’s only fair.
And I suppose it is especially easy for a woman to say what you just did… It doesn’t directly affect or concern you short of dumping someone because of their unchosen physical features, right? I don’t mean to offend or cast assumptions, but how shallow can you get… It’s not so simple for cut men to know what they miss by comparison!
CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 02:36 pm: [report]
It’s funny because you’re mad.
_jsw_
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 02:40 pm: [report]
I’m pretty sure that being uncircumcised makes men write longer and rantier posts.
*sam*
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 02:50 pm: [report]
@_jsw_: what about women? I too am pretty verbose (thanks for bringing that word back
) what does that say about me??
_jsw_
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 02:54 pm: [report]
@*sam*: It means you’ve never been circumcised.
Chris519
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 05:04 pm: [report]
Hmm, well that doesn’t quite fit right, now does it? I’m circumcised and look at some of the things I’ve written above.
@ Cheese.
And why shouldn’t I be? Give me one single good reason which is not trolls rhetoric. Oh, by the way… You appear pretty funny to me as well.
hereshestands
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 05:40 pm: [report]
@ Potterygirl. Hello there I just think it’s silly everyone is so angry. I couldn’t really care less like you should like someone for what they are not for how their peen looks. Yeah?
@Chris519. “It doesn’t directly affect or concern you short of dumping someone because of their unchosen physical features, right?” I would never ever dump someone because of something so shallow. I love my boyfriend because of who he is not what he is. If you know what I mean. I’m sure you will find some lovely lady who loves you just the way you are.
@Cheese. Angry angry angry they are.
_jsw_
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 05:41 pm: [report]
I stand corrected.
I’m pretty sure that being or wanting to be uncircumcised makes men write longer and rantier posts.
PotteryGirl
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 06:07 pm: [report]
@Chris519 - you are so right. I mean, as a woman, what would I know about men not being interested because of how we look. Please. On stray pube and for some men, it’s all over. Give me a break.
My point was simple - the article is about oral sex. The majority of men in the US, according to stas I looked up earlier, are circumcised and the purpose of the article was to explain to women how to give proper head to uncircumcised men. It wasn’t created as a forum for political diatribes for cut vs. uncut. If someone is going to break up with you because you have or haven’t been circumcised, do you really want to be with him or her? Or as @onewriter said quite simply, How we went from “how to make an uncut man thrill” to “which is bad, circumcision or no circumcision” is beyond me. “
THAT’s why I said that @hereshestands was a voice of reason.
So a serious question for you - why do you dislike being circumcised?
CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 06:53 pm: [report]
@chris(number): I am circumcised and really don’t care, I think you are just angry at your parents. Go cry to to them, why write diatribes on the internet. WE DON’T GIVE A FLYING F*CK. I am perfectly happy with my penis, and I just think you are living in denial. Also, cut the sarcasm schmuck.
retro chic
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 07:08 pm: [report]
@Pottergirl: Amen. That has been my point, as well – straight up. The serial hijacking of these posts intended to be about something fun and informative inevitable deteriorates into a diatribe *we have all heard before* verbatim and ad nauseam on many other posts. Frisky even devoted a post to discuss circumcision exclusively, presumably to divert that traffic. No one’s rant can be compelling if one is hit over the head with it repeatedly, no matter how factual or worthy the issue may be. I think we can all stip to that. It would be nice if there was more discretion when responding to these “evangelists.”
CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 07:14 pm: [report]
@retro chic: Hiya, please see my other angry post recently. Ciao.
PotteryGirl
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 07:22 pm: [report]
@CheeeeEEEEse - I personally think that Chris would be angry at Mom no matter what. If he was uncircumcised, he’s be angry that they DIDN’T get him circumcised and because they didn’t, he got made fun of in gym class. The grass is always greener…
retro chic
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 07:28 pm: [report]
^ Right… sorry, forgot the honorable mention to you… “and all the others that made this important message possible.”:)
It’s so tiresome really, it’s like watching chum being thrown over the side in anticipation of yet another instinctual feeding (un)frenzy. Strange phenomenon.
PotteryGirl
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 07:31 pm: [report]
@retro chic - OMG. LOL. I have got to get off of the computer because now I have images of men who are unhappy with their peen standing around just waiting for someone to toss this issue their way. My mind movie is not pretty right now.
Chris519
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 07:47 pm: [report]
@ _jsw_
Yeah, whatever.
@ Cheese.
I see. I can respect that viewpoint. I on the other hand however am circumcised and DO care. You can respect that much, right? Also, no. I don’t feel particularly angry at my parents, I just wish they weren’t given information that was so grossly one-sided and worked purely off their own assumptions as to my future preferences and thoughts on the subject. That’s also why I write and spread the word that it’s not as risk-free or purely beneficial as it’s made out to be. You do have to accept the fact that it can happen: Men don’t have to like what was done to them. I am not in any form of denial, it’s as SIMPLE as that. If you don’t care to listen, then oh well. My message is not specifically aimed at you. Also, far as I’m aware the sarcasm was started with you.
@ hereshestands.
Well, that’s good then. I like that you adhere to that line of thought. The world needs more of it.
@ PotteryGirl.
And it’s unfortunate that people like that exist in this world. If what I said was short-sighted to you, then I apologize. I don’t condone of shallow behavior like that either way to be honest.
True enough. I just thought saying how I’d like to be in possession of the parts that it speaks of was relevant in a way is all.
I see. Sorry for not getting it, I was a bit offended at the time.
I dislike being circumcised because I believe it should have been my decision to make alone, being the sole owner of the body in question. I don’t have a problem with it when it is done for a true medical need, but that wasn’t the case with me so I think it was thoroughly pointless. Everybody has their own opinion… I hope it’s not strange to you, but I do like the look of one that is natural more. That appearance WOULD have been nice for myself but… Seeing as how I had a certain procedure forced on me… You know. I could go more into my thoughts, but I feel this is already long enough.
hereshestands
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 08:10 pm: [report]
@Chris519: That’s just me I guess.
Chris519
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 08:20 pm: [report]
...Grass greener on the other side if I was left alone? Really? When this is irreversible?
Immature joking about my feelings towards my parents?
And for a moment here I was thinking that you might be a respectable person. But I’ll still reserve any judgment until your reply. IF you reply.
AChanceAtHeaven
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 08:26 pm: [report]
Pull down those pants, take out the scissors, and cut away - THAT will ‘blow his mind’.
PotteryGirl
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 08:29 pm: [report]
@Chris519 - I’m feeling very sassy this evening so I truly apologize if I offended.
I really and truly don’t understand the circumcised vs. uncircumcised issue. Perhaps it’s because I don’t have a penis. I also believe that in the 60s - 80s, it was a very standard practice in the US. I don’t know how old you are or if you fit in that demographic, but in my age group and among my countrymen - it’s standard and was never considered a violation of a male. I have never dated anyone that wasn’t circumcised. Not on purpose because I really, really don’t think it matters. It just happened that way.
That doesn’t make it right or wrong, that’s just my frame of reference. That was what I was jokingly alluding to in my jest about your family. If you would have attended high school in that time frame in the US, you would have been mocked for not being cut.
I never knew about reconstruction until one of the first posters on this thread posted. That sounds incredibly painful.
Again - sorry if my glib mood caused offense.
retro chic
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 08:47 pm: [report]
Chris519: If you want to be “understood” better, consider (re)delivering your *message* to a post devoted to this (link below) with a more receptive and sympathetic audience. This one is about giving and getting actual Pleasure. thanks
Otherwise, cut or uncut, it just seems like the same old stroking. Sorry for your experience.
“What Men Think About Circumcision:”
http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-quickies-090909/
[©2009 recycled msg to/re TLCTugger, et al, above]
CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 10:19 pm: [report]
Chris, why are you preaching to these lovely ladies. Most don’t have children in the womb or newborns. What do you hope to accomplish by spreading your message? Nothing. This site is primarily for the ladies, and in addition sensitive men (Shout out jsw). So just go away, and or attempt to reform your one sided approach to this site and try your hand elsewhere….or GTFO.
onewriter
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 10:48 pm: [report]
Could we, oh, POSSIBLY, stick with the topics from now on???
_jsw_
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 10:50 pm: [report]
@onewriter: Good idea. So… want to share any knowledge you have on the subject?
retro chic
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 11:06 pm: [report]
...On the upside, my frustrated resistance to all the “PSA-ers” has given way to hot anticipation of meeting Mr Uncut! How did I miss these? How does one go about seeking uncut if you’re not wearing a message board t-shirt? Go to Euro clubs/pubs… Europe? I’m staying tuned for answers to these compelling questions and more…
_jsw_
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 11:07 pm: [report]
*raises, er, hand*
onewriter
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 11:14 pm: [report]
@jsw….well, I think we should be following what it says, as one of my (uncut, it turns out) friends agrees whole-heartedly with the techniques. Also, my boyfriend is uncut, which is why I was interested in the article. He seems way more sensitive than anyone I’ve known…so, I figured there must be a different and better way to treat him. Apparently, slow and gentle loving is the way to go, and that’s good, because that’s what I do until he wants more than that. And believe me, he lets me know…
CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 11:23 pm: [report]
onewriter, sensitive or not, what do you want? Seems like you are kowtowing just a bit.
retro chic
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 11:24 pm: [report]
OK, You… over there with the swollen hand… what say you?
onewriter
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 11:28 pm: [report]
@cheese I don’t think you’re following the comments. Or are you TRYing to start fights on here? I SAID: I was interested in the article because MY boyfriend seems a bit more sensitive than anyone I’ve been with and I wanted to know if I was doing it right or I should change…..GRRR
CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 11:32 pm: [report]
@onewriter: Nope, I think everyone is different and that you should tailor your approach to what seems best to the both of you. I just happen to get angry at the schmucks above which have tainted this discussion, and have hence warped my perception of your relationship, and I apologize. I still don’t believe that the foreskin really serves any serious purpose though.
_jsw_
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 11:39 pm: [report]
@retro chic: Join the forum.
I’llWe’ll show youmythe way.retro chic
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 11:49 pm: [report]
Oh, that’s right! Sure explains the whereabouts of your other hand.
CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 11:51 pm: [report]
I’m a lefty! Well, really I’m ambidextrous.
onewriter
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 11:53 pm: [report]
@jsw rofl!! glad you’re back…you’ve been missed on here.
by the way, I found you on facebook…well done!
retro chic
wrote on September 11 2009 @ 11:59 pm: [report]
^I figured you for a Lefty McWiz! No surprise there. Always wanted to be one.
[fade/test-pattern/off air]
CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 12 2009 @ 12:02 am: [report]
@retro: I was almost off the air there. I was in bed and wanted to sleep, but damn bad chinese food….so puked, now I’m ready to go again and feeling better. Commenting away!
TLCTugger
wrote on September 12 2009 @ 12:05 am: [report]
^^ I just happen to get angry at the schmucks above which have tainted this discussion ^^
Who comes to an article about giving intact men pleasure even though it’s not relevant to him? You.
Who keeps preaching that it’s somehow possible to amputate 15 square inches of sensual tissue with no negative affects on sexuality and dismisses the heartache of people with mutilated genitals as if they should just walk it off? You. You have tainted a discussion about the pleasure derived from intact genitals with stuff that’s completely off that topic.
^^ I still don’t believe that the foreskin really serves any serious purpose ^^
You just need to take your fingers out of your ears and stop chanting “na na na na” while the article and the knowledgeable people posting after it try to help you understand that the foreskin includes over half the male sensual nerve endings, protects the glans and mucosa from sensation-robbing drying and abrasion, and affords an exquisite frictionless rolling/gliding mode of stimulation during manipulation and intercourse.
If you’ve got 20 minutes, there’s a great 2-part YouTube video that’s part of medical school curricula for doctors getting ready to specialize. Just search there for “Functions of the foreskin.” It’s not a matter of belief. Facts are facts.
CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 12 2009 @ 12:07 am: [report]
How to blow any mans mind. Be willing to touch the penis done. I didn’t read any of you s*it. Just touch the damn thing. So shut it.
retro chic
wrote on September 12 2009 @ 12:08 am: [report]
^Dear god in heaven, I must be so tired, I’m hallucinating. 10-4
CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 12 2009 @ 12:12 am: [report]
@retro chic: Nope, you are west coast if I remember?
Any way what “Tugger” here represents (literally sell, and he should be selling to men but hes posting on a ladies forum) is a ‘process’ which stretches existing skin over the penis which resembles a foreskin. It has none of the claimed nerves or any of the bulls*it espoused above.
Stretch that over your head (f*cking pun) and blow it out your ass.
onewriter
wrote on September 12 2009 @ 12:14 am: [report]
more insults? I’m outa here.
retro chic
wrote on September 12 2009 @ 12:21 am: [report]
@CheeeeEEEEse: Gotcha, I’m clear with your stuff. My “^” comment to TLCT got usurped by the simul-posting of yours. Those “^“s can be dangerous lil suckas.
I may be West coast, but my head is in Greenwich [Zzzz]
CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 12 2009 @ 12:24 am: [report]
@onewriter: I wasn’t insulting you nor your boyfriend nor his apparent uncircumcised penis. Which if I do say so myself you seem a bit uptight about. Why, search me.
What nobody seems to really get is that this is all subjective, feelings, sensations…you certainly cannot convey any of that to another person verbally.
Touch the penis. Duh.
majicksand
wrote on September 12 2009 @ 01:03 pm: [report]
Ahhh, so this is what all the fuss is about. My husband and both my sons are circumsized. If my next child is male, he will be too. I won’t be defending or debating my choice because I don’t feel the least bit obligated. I just hate to feel left out of the biggest topic going, so I had to post my position.
Go-To_Marla
wrote on September 12 2009 @ 07:57 pm: [report]
You know, it’s sad that so many parents in the US feel that they are entitled to alter their little boys’ genitals the way they see fit.
What a disgusting country.
PotteryGirl
wrote on September 12 2009 @ 09:31 pm: [report]
No, Marla. The only thing disgusting is you. Go away, Troll.
onewriter
wrote on September 12 2009 @ 09:33 pm: [report]
@ frisky soooo…when are you going to tell me how to block the rude ones??
CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 12 2009 @ 09:36 pm: [report]
I’ll tell you. Copy the name. Go to settings -> Ignore Users -> Add User. Paste. Click Add user. It’s something like that.
onewriter
wrote on September 12 2009 @ 09:36 pm: [report]
Thank you
Chris519
wrote on September 13 2009 @ 12:36 am: [report]
@ Cheese.
Why so closed minded and vulgar? If you don’t like it, don’t look at it. It’s as simple as that. Skim over my post if you deem the content worthless. You seem to be doing a pretty good job of that thus far with all the rest. There’s no reason to throw up snide remarks that aren’t productive to civil discussion when you have that as an option.
@ PotteryGirl.
I accept the apology, and I thank you for being courteous, unlike some of the others on here.
Well, since you’ve put it like that, coming from a woman’s perspective on top of the background, I guess it all makes sense. You can’t really be blamed for any of that, it was just the unfortunate environment at the time. For similar reasons, that’s also why I bear no ill will towards my parents. I just wish they were given information that wasn’t totally one sided and spoke of future psychological risks as well. Though this all speaks volumes of the conditioning involved, as well as how people tend to lean on the side of being a reflection of their upbringing… Mind you, I mean no offense by that. It’s just that I don’t understand why people don’t question more. History can teach valuable lessons to those that pay adequate attention. For example, (though I’m not saying it’s the same, merely that the mindset could be related) people used to practice bloodletting, sincerely believing that it was in the best interest despite it’s (nowadays) obvious harms.
Maybe you’re right, perhaps I could have been teased for it. Though honestly, what DON’T kids make fun of? If it isn’t one thing, it’s usually another. I’ve always found that to be a pretty feeble rationale in light of that simple common sense.
The reconstruction? That’s not painful. It depends on what form of reconstruction you’re talking about though. There’s tissue expansion, skin grafting methods and surgery. The first simply involves pulling on the skin in order to stimulate growth from ones own remaining tissues, skin grafting is… Not as favorable, who would want discolored patches down there? Whereas surgery… Self explanatory. That probably would hurt. And it’s results aren’t as favored. It’s not even recommended. This is one area in which modern medicine has yet to catch up with mother nature unfortunately. And it’s probably only gonna take longer the more people object to acknowledging those who don’t like being circumcised. Furthermore, it can take a few years for the first method that is most favorable to work. Now, contrast years with the 5 minute surgery in infancy. It takes considerably less time to get rid of something than the length of time required to get it back, doesn’t it? That alone should be enough to give pause to those considering it, but I don’t know. Can’t understand them, probably never will.
Apologies for the long-winded reply, I’m ending it here.
_jsw_
wrote on September 13 2009 @ 12:47 am: [report]
@Chris519: I support many of your points, but it doesn’t serve much purpose for either side to argue vehemently over a topic like this, especially in a thread which isn’t about circumcision! The link to the other thread was given many times.
CheeeeEEEEse
wrote on September 13 2009 @ 02:42 am: [report]
Close minded, no. Vulgar, f*ck yes. As I said before you are either just bitching online that you lost your foreskin, or are doing the same thing anti-choice people do against abortions. Either way it doesn’t concern me and I think that you are either a weak minded human or a pussy.
TLCTugger
wrote on September 13 2009 @ 08:44 am: [report]
^^ Close minded, no ^^
Hmmm. Doesn’t jive with this:
^^ I didn’t read any of your s*it. ^^
So you don’t even know what you’re so irate about?
^^ Touch the penis. Duh. ^^
There’s more than one way to “touch” male or female genitals. You don’t seem to get that the modes of touching described in this article are being taken from males without their consent. The whole point of the article is that touching a whole penis is very different from touching what’s left of a penis.
By your standard, advice to get the most out of pornography would be: “Just watch the smut. Duh” and it wouldn’t matter whether the viewer’s vision had been obscured by blinders forced upon him at someone else’s whim. You might even find blinders kinky and fun. But why must you have such scorn for those who just want to see the whole show?
Chris519
wrote on September 13 2009 @ 08:50 am: [report]
@ _jsw_
I’m sorry, then. I did get a bit carried away and off-track I suppose. I’ll try to refrain next time or at the very least, keep anything I have to say more brief if I do.
@ Cheese.
Alright, then.
Listen here, while I make this PERFECTLY clear:
I. Do. Not. Give. A. Flying. F*ck. In. H*ll. About. Your. Opinion. Of. Me. And. Couldn’t. Give. A. S*it. About. It. Even. If. I. Tried. To. For. That. Matter. Understood? And I think you’re beneath me. All of this said real considerately, (slow) so that a fine connoisseur of derogatory remarks like you can thoroughly understand every single letter/word and appreciate the highlights (vulgarity!) like the little immature boy that you are deep down inside as well in full!
That said, I’m now finished with you. Why am I getting this vibe that you’re simply the sort of person who enjoys getting a rise out of others?