Diablo Cody Talks To Inked Magazine

bumbler
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 01:33 pm: [report]

hey hey now.  I have to say as a non-practicing Lutheran, we’re getting more and more progressive.  Although I do sometimes wish they would limit the topics of the senior citizen church talks because then my grandmother starts asking me all sorts of questions about what gay people do.  Awkward.

feinicstine
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 01:38 pm: [report]

Her book, Candy Girl (about the year she spent stripping), is absolutely hilarious.  As a writer she has a great voice, I’m just not sure how I feel about her as a person.  Is this who she really is or the person she thinks will sell the most stuff?  Either way, Juno was pretty funny too, so good luck to her.

Ginger
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 01:41 pm: [report]

@Bumbler Lutherans are actually the coolest of all the Christian denomninations that I’ve met. They tend to be forgiving, they’re letting gay marriages happen, and they don’t cling to you if you go their church once because you were dragged there.

Baptists are the ones I have issues with. But maybe I’ve just met the terrible ones. Who don’t understand the meaning of personal space.

Coral
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 01:43 pm: [report]

I can’t stand Diablo Cody. She (and the media) really seem to milk the fact that she was a stripper. Come on! Lots of women have gone from stripping to having successful careers later on in life. Plus, I don’t see her as a talented writer in any way. I thought Juno was mediocre at best. Juno had a very basic plot with some funny teenager phrasing. And Juno seemed to push the envelope about how acceptable teen pregnancy, abortion, adoption is acceptable in the media. But in my opinion, there is nothing special that makes Juno stand out from the rest of the movies from that year, unless of course, one wants to continue to milk the fact that Diablo Cody came from a stripping background. And her new movie, Jennifer’s Body, well, it just seems stupid.

joyy
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 01:48 pm: [report]

@Ginger - I’ve had the same experience with Baptists.

AgentBeryllium
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 01:57 pm: [report]

@ginger & Joyy: Pentecostal Christians are really nutty. My old babysitter was one and when I was 11 she tried to confiscate my ‘My little Ponies’ only the unicorns and Pegasus’ b/c the guy she was dating told her they were forms of the devil and I should have them.

joyy
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 02:00 pm: [report]

@msPriss - don’t get me started on my personal experiences with the nuttiest religious folks I’ve met, because I’m bound to ramble on and on about LDS and will probably inadvertently offend nice, non-nutty people along the way.

Ginger
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 02:09 pm: [report]

@msPriss I’ve never met a Pentecostal Christian so I can’t really judge them. But taking away your My Little Ponies is kind of stupid.
I had a day care person (who was, unfortunately, in charge) when I was younger who wouldn’t let me change my Barbie’s outfits because it involved them getting naked. Seeing as how she also stopped another day care worker from teaching all of us kids Spanish, she wasn’t exactly popular with the kids she was ‘teaching’. To this day, she’s probably the worst example of a ‘says she’s Christian but she’s really just a judgemental b***h who quotes the bible’ Christian I’ve ever met.

@Joyy My dad came from a Mormon background (he grew up in Utah, he didn’t have much of a choice) and he and his sister (especially his sister) dislike LDS so much. I’ve met a lot of cool Mormons who were easy going about things, but I’ve also met the crazy ones who do not help with that church’s public image.

I Go To 11
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 02:14 pm: [report]

@ ginger, joyy and mspriss: I’ll just second what you all are saying about the more out-there beliefs. I’m sure those sects have some perfectly nice people that follow them, but I just don’t get some of the things they do. (For instance, I have some Mormon friends, and they are incredibly nice people and have been nothing but good friends to my fiance and me, but some of their beliefs just don’t jive with our United Methodist ones.) I tend to be especially leery of those that “speak in tongues”; my cousin married into a family that belongs to a church that does that. But that’s just IMHO.

Ginger
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 02:20 pm: [report]

@I Go To 11 When I was going to that day care I figured out how to speak my own form of gibberish. I’d just spit out syllables really fast and throw in inflection to get my point across.

The Baptist woman I mentioned flipped out about it because she thought I was speaking in tongues. So naturally I taught other kids how to do it. She ended up bringing her bible to the building. Probably in case she had to do an exorcism.

Coral
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 02:22 pm: [report]

My mom grew up in Utah and her side of my family has a very long background of polygamy and some FLDS. Although she was never involved in the FLDS herself (Fundamentalist Church of the Latter Day Saints), it still is sickening to know that it still exists. FLDS are not exactly Mormon, no one considers them to be, but they study from most of the same holy books, etc. Joseph Smith, who ‘founded’ the Mormon religion, is simply crazy. I don’t mean to offend anyone and certainly everyone has the right to have their own personal religious beliefs. BUT, when religions take it to cult-like practices (scandals which are very much true of physical and sexual abuse, brainwashing women, men, and children…), it is no longer a religion in my opinion, and more of a cult organization that should not be allowed to practice. An for regular LDS Mormons, I still personally believe that they are brainwashed. I am not Mormon, but I have been in Mormon temples (which is rare for an outsider to be allowed in because Mormons do not want ‘unholy’ people in their holy buildings). And I can still say that the basic religion of Mormonism is one that is still not okay with me. And in fact the religious tablet that Joseph Smith claims to be words of God and hundreds or thousands of years old has been proved that it is actually something that was created an carve not too long ago.

I Go To 11
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 02:30 pm: [report]

@ ginger: LMAO! That is awesome.

I think it’s the hypocrisy that gets me. I’m sorry, but spouting off Bible verses, then spewing homophobic/racist/ any kind of prejudiced remarks in the same breath is completely the opposite of what Christ’s message was, which, when you boil it down, is about love. I mean, we’re talking about someone that embraced prostitutes and lepers here, so I fail to believe that Jesus would appreciate some of the horrible things these people do and say. For example, I used to work for a payday loan company, and we had this one customer that was incredibly rude when we tried to collect on money she owed us (and she knew she owed it, but was hell-bent on not paying it); yet, whenever you called her house, whoever answered said “Praise the Lord” instead of your normal “Hello”. It made no sense.

Another great example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOpva_iit-8

LostInStars
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 02:33 pm: [report]

Lutheran’s -are- pretty chill. Baptists can be really crazy. I went to one of their churches here ONCE and they still send me a birthday card every year and I get a newsletter asking for money every couple of weeks. Pentecostal though. Whoa. I have nothing nice to say about the majority of Mormon’s I’ve met, either,  but I think those are just the ones I’ve met. The kindest, wisest person I’ve ever met happened to be a Shaman.

joyy
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 02:38 pm: [report]

Mennonites rate highest on my denomenation likeability scale, hah.

@Ginger - my bf was raised mainstream LDS and even though his family is hella polite overall, the religion/brainwashing totally bugs me out.  And his one sister is barely 30, but the ungodly racist #&@$% that I hear out of her mouth is SO deeply ingrained that it rivals my practically white-supremecist ignorant father’s #&@$%, something I never thought I’d see.  Unbelievable.

I Go To 11
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 02:48 pm: [report]

Another fun story about hypocritical religious folks: I used to work for a call center, and there was this one chick there that annoyed the crap out of everyone because she was this big Bible-thumper and just WOULD NOT SHUT UP about her beliefs. I became pregnant with my daughter during the time I worked there, and this chick had the nerve to say to me, “Do you know who the father is?” Um, yeah, because he was my freaking husband at the time…#$^$%$@# moron.

writergirl
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 02:52 pm: [report]

Mennonites were some of the worst people I ever interacted with. I especially liked when one of them asked why I would marry someone with an obvious ethnic last name.  He refused to speak to me again after I explained it was *my* name—that I wasn’t married.  And they were the biggest bunch of mysogonists I’ve ever met.

Fundamentalist Christians are a scary lot too—I love how they say they are so tolerant—until you have different beliefs than them.  Yup, that’s tolerant.

I’ve never met anything but really cool Mormones…maybe there a little more relaxed her on the east coast?  And any Baptist I’ve ever come across has been funny.  And generally drunk.

joyy
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 02:59 pm: [report]

@writergirl - weird, my experience has been with nice hippy kids who are sending letters to church leaders urging the acceptance of gay marriage re: the whole love your neighbor/made in God’s image thing.  You should meet my friends!! My bf’s sister is now on the east coast, and the looniest of the bunch.

GreenAura
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 03:07 pm: [report]

I know a Mormon guy (67 years young!) who listens to reggae, cracks jokes constantly and just spent 2 months in Costa Rica as a foreign exchange student (his major is Spanish).  He is one of the coolest guys I know, Mormon or not.

I wonder if anyone here has some more insight on the Mormon religion (Coral maybe??)... I had 2 friends in high school that both told me the exact same story:  Before a Mormon girl gets married in the temple, she is supposed to have a one-on-one meeting with the Bishop behind closed doors.  What happens is never to be spoken about again to anyone.  Once the women have daughters, they tell them about the meeting, but not what takes place.  One of my friends broke away from Mormonism before getting married and the other DID get married in the temple, but refuses to talk.  Does anyone know what happens behind closed doors?? (perhaps the obvious implication??)

Ginger
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 03:12 pm: [report]

@Joyy My dad and aunt are pretty chill. No one in their family is a hrdcore Mormon (though their mom goes all to church all the time now) they were just Mormon because they lived in or near Salt Lake City and being Mormon was what people did back then.

My aunt hates the church because she chose to be baptised when she was younger but, when she became an adult, realized that she didn’t like the church. And when she tried to get her name removed from their list of people or whatever they gave her nothing but trouble and it ended up taking years.

@Green Aura My Mormon friends have never mentioned anything about that. They just mention the magical underwear that will protect women from rape.

Coral
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 03:18 pm: [report]

@GreenAura: Yup. I know about those meetings before a girl gets married. The meeting is supposed to be a ‘sacred’ and ‘holy’ experience that should only be shared in private between the two people. However, in most cases, especially with the normal LDS, rather than FLDS, although the meetings are strange and definitely weird, nothing terribly wrong to my knowledge happens behind closed doors. There are plenty of other times throughout going to the temple, that Mormons are alone with a bishop of some sort and are required to divulge all their secrets, and desires, good and bad, in an attempt to direct them to the more innocent choices. But these sessions tend to be more about brainwashing than about preventing sins, in my opinion. However in the FLDS compounds, the obvious suspicious encounters certainly do take place, sometimes in meeting similar to the one you described. But the meeting before marriage is kind of like one last chance to ensure a Mormon woman’s purity and innocence. But, I personally think anyone required by religion to divulge such nonsense and personal secrets and revelations is only doing more harm to one’s soul.

I Go To 11
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 03:37 pm: [report]

@ ginger: Magical underwear? What? I’d never heard of the before!

You know, one thing I can’t wrap my head around was in a conversation with one of our Mormon friends. He was explaining that they stress the importance of higher education for both men and women, which I’m totally behind, but that it’s expected for women to stay at home after getting married and having children. (He said a lot of women get “MRS degrees”.) If you’re brought up knowing that this is expected of you, especially since they tend to start families rather young, why spend all that time getting a college degree in the first place? I don’t see the point in spending all that time and money for something you don’t really plan on using anyway. It just seems counterintuitive to me. If anyone can shed more light on this, I’m open to hearing it.

GreenAura
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 03:39 pm: [report]

@ Ginger: I heard about the magical underpants too! Geez, if a Mormon and a Scientologist put their heads together, they could make millions off of underwear that protects you from alien rape. 

@ Coral: Well, good to know that nothing terrible happens.  I remember both of my friends were pretty nervous about it.  That was one of the reasons one of them separated from the church.  I personally could never allow someone guide me in a particular direction based on a religious compass.  Maybe I am too stubborn, but I just think that the best decisions come from your gut, not a preacher/bishop/cardinal/nun or whoever.  I have a favorite saying that, although is has a religious flavor, is more about self reliance: “If prayer is you talking to god, then intuition is god talking to you”.  Love it.  No preacher necessary.

joyy
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 03:58 pm: [report]

@GreenAura - great saying!

Skwisgiirl
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 04:02 pm: [report]

Okay, I have to speak up for the Baptists out there and say, not all of us are super-clingy Bible-thumping hatemongers… and depending on where you are (and, in many cases, of what race your church is predominately comprised), “Baptist” means different things. I know that most, if not all, Black Southern Baptist churches don’t care what the SBC (Southern Baptist Convention) has to say about anything. And I don’t think they’d make you burn your Kiss records—they’d probably just try to push Mahalia Jackson on you instead, though.

@Green Aura: I love that saying! It lines right up with my own personal convictions, I think.

AgentBeryllium
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 04:07 pm: [report]

@ginger: i think the babysitter was on acid. I do not see how My Little Ponies can be seen as a demonic force.

Ginger
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 04:07 pm: [report]

@skwisgiirl I’m sure there are good Baptists out there. I’ve never gotten to meet any Black Southern Baptists but everyone I’ve known who has met one or been to one of their services had nothing but good things to say.

I just seem to always meet the ‘super-clingy Bible-thumping hatemongers’. Which is horrible because now that’s what I think when I think of Baptists. And they all seem to think they’ve been these wonderful ambassadors of Christ and just don’t understand why I don’t want to go to church with them.

Ginger
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 04:09 pm: [report]

@msPriss Acid does that to people sometimes.

Coral
wrote on August 25 2009 @ 09:10 pm: [report]

@GreenAura: I love that saying as well! I consider myself spiritual rather than organized religion, but I still have my beliefs, etc. And that saying goes along with what I believe in.