Debate This: Would You Exchange Sex For Money?

Kiki T
wrote on January 23 2009 @ 11:05 am: [report]

I never sold it…but god knows I’ve had many occasions where I felt like I should charge after, so to get something, anything out of it. bad sex can make you want to do as many crazy things as good sex.

benglish320
wrote on January 23 2009 @ 11:10 am: [report]

I’ve never paid for sex, and never will.  In the end, if a women wants to do it, it’s her body.

Lucky Red
wrote on January 23 2009 @ 11:22 am: [report]

This is a funny debate b/c the other day my friends & I were playing would you rather… Be homeless OR Sell your body. It was a 50/50 split.
This is one of those silly debates that puts more liberal outlooks on one side & conservatives on the other.
As for me, if you got it & you’re ok with doing than why not? Especially in these economically unstable times.

Chelle
wrote on January 23 2009 @ 11:50 am: [report]

I could never do it. I would just feel like a piece of trash, personally. Yeah it would be cool, in theory, to get paid for sleeping with people you want to sleep with. Unfortunately, in prostitution you don’t always get to choose your customers. Especially if you’re desperate for money.

thegr8brownie
wrote on January 23 2009 @ 11:59 am: [report]

haven’t women always used sex like this?
i mean maybe not as flat out as prostitution, but don’t women hold out on sex when they want/need something sometimes? IDK.
what im saying is, i think women use sex to get what they want/need more than they think they do, and more than a man does.

Provocative Girl
wrote on January 23 2009 @ 12:52 pm: [report]

Times are tough, but I could never sell my self for money. I think that is one of the most degrading things that a woman can do to herself. Yeah, I get the whole it’s a woman’s body and she can do with it what she chooses (i’m TOTAL pro-choice) but I don’t think many women think about the consequences that can come along with prostitution. What about if you want to get married? You should tell your fiance that you sold your self for sex and how do you think he will react? And if you have a child, do you teach them that you don’t really have to try hard in life because if all else fails you can sell your body for money? Kinda like Natalie Dylan, she’s selling herself to go through college and she wants to be a marriage counselor? How do you tell your clients that you were sold your body for over $3 million to go to grad school?  Or how do you even get a job as a marriage counselor when you go to apply and the interviewer says “Hey, weren’t you the girl who auctioned off her virginity at the bunny ranch?” You really have to think about the effects that come along with making such a decision. If you think that nothing bad could ever come out of selling yourself for sex, you might want to think again.

Chelle
wrote on January 23 2009 @ 12:59 pm: [report]

@thegr8brownie-Yeah, I use sex to get what I want. When what I want is an orgasm. Otherwise NO.

One Big Voice
wrote on January 23 2009 @ 02:01 pm: [report]

Jesse Baron, you seem extremely naive. Love and sex are not the same thing! It’s called “casual sex” for a reason: because two(or more if you’re into the whole group sex thing)people mutually agree to have sex because they want to. It really is that simple, and I would never judge anybody based on whether they have been the seller or the buyer (with the exception of those who seek sex with children, those people are mentally ill). Anyone who thinks prostitution is going away any time soon is living in a dream-world. If it was legal everywhere, there would be a lot less exploitation of young women, a lot less drug addicts, and a lot less STD’s being passed around the general population—not to mention the added bonus of all the tax revenue that would be collected.
By the way, I for one do not NEED “the respect of others”. Don’t get me wrong, I want people to think highly of me, but if they are determined to judge me because of something I did in the past then I am not going to lose too much sleep over it!

joyy
wrote on January 23 2009 @ 02:19 pm: [report]

@Provocative Girl - your comment reminds me of my racist father’s when he stopped talking to me because he thought I was dating a black guy: that one day if my fiance/husband found out, he would leave me, and my life would therefore be ruined.  Ironically enough, I wasn’t dating the guy ... and I wouldn’t be with someone who would leave me if I had.

You probably shouldn’t marry someone if you aren’t comfortable sharing what you’ve been through in your past, whether it was by choice or not.  I’m not advocating for prostitution, but we’ve all done things we’re not proud of and if someone is going to leave you for something you did in the past, then it doesn’t sound like a solid relationship to begin with.  If it’s continuing concurrently with the relationship, different story.

I’m a huge believer in dealing with the consequences of one’s actions, and I would never sell my body for money.  But your line of reasoning blows.  Want to talk about consequences?  How about exposure to violence and STDs.  How about getting arrested.

greggy
wrote on January 23 2009 @ 05:02 pm: [report]

A few things come into play here:
How many guys have I slept with for free? Enough. So if it’s a guy that I’d sleep with anyway for free, might as well get some money off of it. Ever look at a guy and seriously think “Ooh, I’d so do him.” Now, what if he offered you money for it? It’d be a bit awkward and most women would be understandably offended by it. But if said woman is open to it, it could work.

A male friend of mine who has paid for sex before makes this point: “I’m dating a girl… I take her out for weeks, buy her things, use up gas money blah blah blah, and I still don’t know if the girl is gonna sleep with me. For the same amount, I can give it to another girl, get what I want, and keep it moving. No strings attached, I don’t have to deal with her afterwards.” When he put it like that, my thoughts started to change a bit.

Would I be out walking the street trying to get anybody to give me some money for sex? Hell NO!! And would that turn into my job, me relying on it and doing it b/c I’m desperate for money? Never. But women use sex to get other things (gifts, special treatment at work, get a guy to like/love her, revenge, etc.), why not get some cash?

Curvygal
wrote on January 24 2009 @ 04:24 am: [report]

Everyone makes their own choices. I have tried sex for money around ten times now. Kind of like casual sex as a paying hobby. Maybe 70% of my friends and family know and I’m okay with it too. I don’t think I’ll do it forever but it’s certainly an experiment.

jss
wrote on January 24 2009 @ 09:01 am: [report]

*Almost* everyone would. It just depends on the price.

Anyone who says “never” ... think about your price, for one night. Do you have one, unrealistic or not?

WithoutThinking
wrote on January 25 2009 @ 04:13 am: [report]

Don’t forget that being paid for sex changes the dynamic of the sex itself.  If a man gives you money in exchange for (what he sees as) a commodity, it won’t be the “same” as if the two of you had mutually consented in another fashion (love, lust, drugs, etc.).

For those against legal prostitution - Which is better, regulated sex-for-money in which STD’s, consent, and proper behavior can be defined and regulated, or a free-for-all in the alley where people regularly get raped, STD’s go unscreened for, and the women have little to no legal recourse?  Also, as has already been said, what’s the difference between me buying a girl a bottle of Bacardi knowing she’ll get drunk and bone me afterward and me just paying her 40 dollars for a blowjob and a movie up front?

For those for legal prostitution - If society still isn’t intelligent enough to educate its people about sex and STD’s, do you really think it is intelligent enough to manage legal prostitution?  We get one day in middle or high school in which a corny video that ultimately proposes abstinence as the only method of birth control is the only sex education some Americans receive.  And some parents are still outraged at this.  Viagra’s largest market is college students, and when all that sex prompts a visit to your doctor for a STD screen many people’s reponses are still “Why? Are you dirty?”

Just some things to think about.

One Big Voice
wrote on January 25 2009 @ 12:28 pm: [report]

@Without:“Viagra’s largest market is college students ... ” LOL Where exactly did you come up with that impression? I’m a student and no-one in my age group has trouble with erectile dysfunction. I’m guessing you haven’t noticed that in every single ED drug commercial, the guys are at least 50 years old?
Regarding your nugget of wisdom informing us that paying for sex changes the “dynamic”. Really? Thank you Captain Obvious!

WithoutThinking
wrote on January 25 2009 @ 02:45 pm: [report]

@One: First off, I find your response very aggressive.  I would have hoped you would give me the benefit of the doubt and realize I wasn’t just typing to see myself type.

http://www.altpenis.com/penis_news/blue_pill.shtml
http://www.smartsextalk.com/PDF/viagra_lifestyle0904.pdf
http://www.webmd.com/erectile-dysfunction/news/20040804/young-men-lead-surge-in-viagra-use

In 2004, yes, the general consensus was that the largest age group to use viagra was old men.  However, with a 312% percent increase in college aged men in 2004 alone, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say that has changed.  Furthermore, as the altpenis artcile discusses, it would be difficult to measure the use in college men because we’re amazing with the internet and levitra, cialis, and viagra are sold in large quantities online.  So, to give a definite answer one way or the other I would have to look at the sales data for the specific companies.

I also have some issues with your arguments.  So you see old men in a commercial and therefore the largest age group MUST be old men?  Hardly a solid position to take.

And how would you know if ANYONE in your age group has erectile dysfunction?  Are you a doctor?  To you conduct surveys with representative samples?  No?  Well then.  Sorry but “Oh well none of my friends and family have erectile dysfunction!” doesn’t cut it, for what should be obvious reasons.

Concerning your response to my comment about the dynamics of sex changing, it was in direct response to statements above such as “How many guys have I slept with for free?” and “Kind of like casual sex as a paying hobby.”  My argument is that by paying for the sex, men will view it differently.  The implicit argument is that they will ACT DIFFERENTLY as well.  Thus casual sex does NOT = being paid for it.  Since it’s obvious by your response that you won’t give me the benefit of the doubt on this, let me spell it out.

Woman: Anal for 200.
*Later* Man is being rough because she’s a prostitute and hey, he paid for it and he wants to get what he paid for.
Woman: It’s painful, he degrades her by slapping her around and spitting on her.  The 200 didn’t include this.  She didn’t sign up for this.
Man: I paid you and this is what I paid for.

What does the woman do?  Go to the police and report herself for prostitution?  Being paid for sex is a different situation than having casual sex.

Get the gist?  Now, not all circumstances would come out like this, but if a girl can get raped by a boy she knows at a college party, I hardly see how being paid for sex could be any better of a situation to put oneself in.

Too long; didn’t read: Get off your high horse and stop being a jerk, jackass.

writergirl
wrote on January 25 2009 @ 04:03 pm: [report]

*jss* hit the nail on the head.  Every one has a different price.  And sometimes hard cash doesn’t even need to exchange hand.

CuteCora
wrote on January 27 2009 @ 07:57 am: [report]

Ok, in the section where the women wrote the article “Hell No I wouldn’t” she made a comment about women who sell their bodies will never be a respected job and will not be respected by others. I feel no matter what you do or how you do it, it’s not about others…it’s about YOU..how you feel. If you respect yourself than really nothing else matters. I wouldn’t sell my body (maybe for 1 million) however i dont really disagree either, it is a choice.. the only reason why we say it’s wrong or bad, or gross is because society has told us to feel this way about this sort of thing…society..WTF, when did we all stop thinking for ourselves and let “Them” who ever “they” are decided for us.. I was always taught that no matter what you do (or who is this case) should never matter as long as you are happy and you do hurt those around you.  My mother always said ..Women have what men want.. and if they chase after it, or disrespect it or be typical men than why not charge the price $$$$

joyy
wrote on January 27 2009 @ 09:36 am: [report]

@CuteCora - good point ... actually now I’m thinking of cultures where sex/company for money was respected (or at least respected much more than prostitution is here) like courtesans and geishas.

One Big Voice
wrote on January 27 2009 @ 01:31 pm: [report]

@Without: Oh, you’ve got sources to back up your argument? I guess that deserves a response then ... Hmm, here’s what my anatomy text says:
“Erectile dysfunction (ED), previously termed impotence, is the consistent inability of an adult male to ejaculate or to attain or hold an erection long enough for sexual intercourse. Many cases of impotence are caused by insufficient release of nitric oxide (NO), which relaxes the smooth muscle of the penile arterioles and erectile tissue. The drug Viagra ® (sildenafil) enhances smooth muscle relaxation by nitric oxide in the penis. Other causes of erectile dysfunction include diabetes mellitus, physical abnormalities of the penis, systemic disorders such as syphilis, vascular disturbances (arterial or venous obstructions), neurological disorders, surgery, testosterone deficiency, and drugs (alcohol, antidepressants, antihistamines, antihypertensives, narcotics, nicotine, and tranquilizers). Psychological factors such as anxiety or depression, fear of causing pregnancy, fear of sexually transmitted diseases, religious inhibitions, and emotional immaturity may also cause ED. ” (Tortora, Principles of Anatomy and Physiology, Standard Version, 12e, p.1124)No mention of age there, so I concede you may have a valid point—although on page 1129 Tortora mentions: ” 
In older males, decreased levels of testosterone are associated with decreased muscle strength, waning sexual desire, and fewer viable sperm; prostate disorders are common.” Perhaps thefrisky could do a poll to see if the women out there have had ED issues with their guys, and if so how old was the guy?
I would like to say something about your “312% increase” statistic though; for there to be such a huge increase, the amount of “college aged men” using such drugs in the first place was likely really low, and a huge increase in a small percentage could mean it went from a “really tiny” number to a merely “small” number. For example, if there was 0.02% in the first study, a 312% increase would mean a result of 0.0624%. Big deal.
As for the “paying changes the dynamic” slam, I totally stand by my original post. That’s like saying that getting a meal at a restaurant is different from a home-cooked meal. It’s a true statement, but completely obvious. Geez, lighten up about the teasing—if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen!

jazzyj
wrote on January 28 2009 @ 12:20 pm: [report]

I would like to say I never would, but I have never been offered a million bucks for sex. In that case, I might just have to say yes. In fact, Natalie Dylan’s auctioning of her virginity made me think, damn, if only I had thought of that when I was a virgin! I mean, I waited and had sex with someone ‘special’ who broke my heart in the end anyway. If he had skipped the heartbreak and added a million bucks, well, I can say to the person concerned about future husbands that my current husband would be very happy to enjoy the fruits of that labor today. Of course, there are men with issues about women and past sexual behaviors, but I avoided those men at all costs. Its a double standard. The same guys who judge women for being sexual often go to strip clubs and suggest that double standards are only natural because men have two personalities and the one in their pants has rights too. Or, judgmental men spend more time yelling at people about religion to be any fun to be around. Either way, I am not really interested in people like that, so the millions for my long lost virginity are going to remain very appealing. Hats off to Miss Dylan for recognizing what kind of world we live in. I hope she invests wisely and never has to worry about a job or the judgments of the Hell Noers.

flosslounge
wrote on January 28 2009 @ 05:25 pm: [report]

Its my belief that everyday we exchange money and material things in exchange for sex directly and indirectly. Without sex, would life be worth waking up for?
Respectfuly
Flosslounge

AntArt141
wrote on January 28 2009 @ 06:15 pm: [report]

Any woman that says she doesn’t believe in sex for money and then takes alimony payments is a whore nonetheless. I have more respect for the person who is at least honest about it.

Men pay 80-90% of alimony payments, so there are a lot of female and some male whores in this country who are dishonest.

tracy122683
wrote on January 29 2009 @ 01:55 pm: [report]

I see nothing wrong with making a little money off your body. It is YOUR body, you can do what you want with it. I have never taken money for sex, but when I was younger I did have sex with someone knowing they would give me drugs, and I have slept with a hot mechanic to get my car fixed. I’ve never regretted it or felt bad about myself. I think that is all that matters in everything you do. How YOU feel.

One Big Voice
wrote on January 29 2009 @ 02:33 pm: [report]

The mechanic was hot AND you got free repairs? Now that’s what I call a “win-win” scenario!

VIPRaquel
wrote on February 18 2009 @ 09:33 pm: [report]

My work at the high end was a blessing. I loved it and I would do it again in the right situation. It’s easy to make snap judgments when you are uneducated about something, but from someone who knows, it can be an incredible experience. There are so many misconceptions about dating for money. It’s saddening that people still have these distorted views of what escorts and professional companions do and how they live. They are smarter than a lot of people giving it away for free, not to mention happier.

To address the issue of what you tell people, you don’t! The smart girls have other things going on in their lives. They are students, new business owners, artists, mothers, teachers, secretaries… Their (very) part time job title does not define who they are or disrupt their ability to lead a perfectly healthy, exciting, and lucrative life.