5 Ways Women Try To Impress Men (And Why They Don’t Work)

Typewriter
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 01:06 pm: [report]

I’ve seen a lot of women try to impress men by attempting to outdrink them. Usually this ends up wrapped around a toilet or passed out cold in someone else’s bed. I don’t know any man who says “Wow, that’s the woman for me!” afterward.

SummertimeFirefly
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 01:06 pm: [report]

Okay, so when you say perfume here what do you really mean? Don’t douse yourself in Chanel No.5?  I wear a subtle vanilla scent that men seem to like…or so they say.

effing hickster
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 01:12 pm: [report]

@SummertimeFirefly: Oh yeah! I’m a definite Vanilla Fields fan! Makes me think of sex and cookies!

amandabear
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 01:16 pm: [report]

I’m a fan of sweet, foodie smells that have always gotten overwhelmingly positive responses from guys. I only wear a very light touch, though, because too much perfume makes me gag, even if I like the smell. I think the perfume you’re thinking of may be the more old fashioned, floraly kind - ladies wearing too much of that have actually caused me to change seats on the subway.

GreenAura
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 01:18 pm: [report]

I disagree about the plastic surgery thing, to an extent.  Many, many, many men like fake breasts.  Why?  Because, although fake, the are still breasts.  The men that don’t like fake breasts are probably in the minority.

vanillalatte
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 01:19 pm: [report]

i wear perfume because i like how it smells and it’s subtle and feminine. too much makeup is nice for a hot night out but not everyday.

slip
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 01:25 pm: [report]

#6. Skin-tight clothes. Leave something to the imagination, will ya?

Slip

Rose
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 01:26 pm: [report]

Trying to impress men by acting like “one of the guys” or dissing other women is probably the worst I’ve seen.

Riley
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 01:33 pm: [report]

@Greenaura - Men like breasts.  Most like the woman’s breasts before the fakes, but don’t complain once they are in there.  I think you are confusing accepting implants with an actual desire for them.  The real deal feels much better, large or small.

delovely
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 01:34 pm: [report]

1. I can’t tell you how many of my dates/boyfriends say something good about the perfume I’m wearing. Or even if it’s just the bodywash I used that morning.

2. Big difference between a healthy, natural tan and the orange glow. I get a fair amount of compliments on my tan skin the summer; not so much in the winter. I also have girlfriends who get compliments on their beautiful, porcelain skin.

3. I can’t think of a single woman who wore a name brand to impress a MAN. We are more than aware that you have NO IDEA what label we’re wearing, but other women do and we just love designers, mmk?

4. Men don’t even realize when women wear makeup 90% of the time. Why? Because that’s the point of makeup, to make it seem like you aren’t wearing any. Also, again, I attract more men with some eye makeup when I’m out on a Friday night. And sometimes, I wished men wore makeup cause you guys need to get better at covering up your zits n’ stuff.

GreenAura
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 01:54 pm: [report]

@ riley: I don’t think I’m confused, I just should have clarified.  It’s pretty simple.  Men like breasts.  End of story

raqueleza
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 01:55 pm: [report]

Do women do any of these things to solely attract men? A large part of them are for ourselves and other women. I know no man will ever appreciate the subtle shades of plum, pewter and asphalt I blended into my smokey-eye look, or the awesome Bvlgari scent I discovered, or the Kathy Von Zeeland bag I scored for 25 bucks. I rock this for myself, and my friends who will appreciate (in my own mind, at least). I feel the “attract a man” quotient is an inevitable but secondary effect.

What about baking? I love baking and sharing, but I always end up feeling like his mom : /

hlnbabe
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 02:03 pm: [report]

i like to make my hair look super pretty. lame as it is, every guy i’ve ever dated has always said they love my hair (either way i style it-straight or curly) when I let it down. Unfortunately, they don’t know that my hair down requirea a minimum 30 minutes to do. but i do it, cause well, nothing like some sexy hair pulling to end a night….

also, the author isn’t saying no perfume, just don’t over do it. i swear by stella mccartney because its light and simple and a little bit goes a long way. but i know women, particularly one in my office building, who have no concept of “too much” and light blue will no longer be a pleasant scent to me.

Frederica Bimble
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 02:13 pm: [report]

Enough with the made up word “overthink” to describe women’s ability to analyse a situation.  The backlash starts HERE, shall we…..Gee, why do men “underthink” everything?  Why, indeed?
You know, Albert Einstein did a lot of thinking but no one ever uses a (yet again) derogatory term to describe his huge brain-pan.  Give it a rest. 
I’ve known many women in my life and I have yet to meet any of them who “overthink” anything.  Intelligent? Yes.  Ability to dissect a situation into minute details? Yes.  Analytical abilities?  Yes.
One cannot “overthink” anything.  One either thinks or does not think. 
That is a good point, mind.  Why do men “underthink” most things?  Come on!  Start using your brains instead of assuming the world HAS to cater to your rules.  Don’t like women wearing fake tan or sporting real tans?  Don’t look at ‘em.  Don’t like perfume?  Go smell someone else.  Don’t like designer gear? Plenty of women who don’t wear it.  Make-up?  Oh, yes, love, YOUR woman too!  Cosmetic surgery?  So rare that you’d actually have to go looking for it.

effing hickster
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 02:18 pm: [report]

@GreenAura: Comparing a real breast to a fake one is like comparing a delicious meal to those silicone food sculptures you see in Asian restaurant windows.
Sorry, I’m not very fond of fake food or fake breasts, no matter how big the portions may be.

effing hickster
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 02:19 pm: [report]

Oh yeah…doesn’t anyone wear White Linen anymore? I love that stuff.

Claireific
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 02:21 pm: [report]

@delovely Maybe I’m old-fashioned or boring or something along those lines but if my boyfriend started using concealer I’d pretty off-put.

And I agree, @SummertimeFirefly, sweet and food smells tend to be a lot more popular with men. I think a study a few years back came up with cinnamon as men’s favorite smell. But on the other hand, I love how Chanel Coco Mademoiselle smells, but my boyfriend doesn’t get it and it bugs him.

majicksand
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 02:31 pm: [report]

Damn.  All this time I thought I was just cheap and lazy.  Turns out I’m the perfect woman. 

I actually had to throw out a really expensive bottle of perfume (I didn’t buy it) because it went bad before I’d used half of it.  Irish redhead = no tanning.  Designer labels?  Yeah right.  Last time I wore make-up was my wedding.  In June.  As for plastic surgery, I won’t say never.  My vanity may require a tummy-tuck after this baby.

Ok, so I’m not perfect.  I’ve got my husband fooled, so all’s good!

Stef-F
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 02:32 pm: [report]

I’ll contradict that plastic surgery thing.  Every guy I know loves my implants, and in fact say that my boob job has converted them to fakes over real…

retro chic
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 02:33 pm: [report]

Reporting from LA, the plastic surgery capital of the world:

LA may be a skewed example of a part of the population that I’m exposed to the most, but it is a very real and serious one in a culture where feminine physical ideals and norms don’t always favor natural.

People here are so desensitized to the look of the plastics, esp the men when it comes to breasts, that it has become the desired norm among many for health and wealth (= sexy in LA terms). For many young minor girls and their willing mothers, it’s not a question of if, but when. They claim it’s for self-esteem going in, but it eventually comes out in the screening it’s for attracting men the way their friends and favorite celebs – and their mothers, do. If their parents deny them, the determined will save up the $5K±. Unfortunately, with not enough real-world experience with natural-loving young guys to offset this perception, the dye is already cast.

The men I’ve heard talk about the subject are split:
Natural: all the way, but seldom fail to throw in how they love looking at them and how great they make the woman look while lying down sunbathing (no spillage), in a hot dress, etc. So that sends a message to women too. But since they’re grownups, it’s their own thing why they go under the knife.

Fake: don’t care how they feel, they want the ultimate arm candy (those are the guys you don’t want anyway).

Again, LA is somewhat skewed as a culture of health and sexy/beauty contradictions, but is a real one for many women AND men.
... now back to you in the studios.

effing hickster
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 02:46 pm: [report]

@retro chic: But spillage is one of the most fascinating things about women’s breasts. On the other hand, not so much for men’s breasts.

LayD
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 02:55 pm: [report]

@delovely, I agree with you.  I have had several guys complement me on how I smell and ask what I am wearing (the truth is I use so many products I never know what they are smelling, perfume, hair conditioner, otehr hair product, deoderant, basically my experienc eis that guys do like it when you smell good)  Also, I love when a guy wears Agua Di Gio, even if it is some old man who walks by me, as soon as get a whiff, I need a cold shower. 

As for tanning, I use to tan regularly but have recently given it up because I don’t want skin cancer or leathery skin, one guy seemed disappointed that I wouldn’t be tanning anymore, before I ever started tanning, another guy told me that I should and would look so much better (yes he was a shallow loser and yes, I got rid of him) so basically, I think guys do notice and like the tans.

retro chic
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 03:11 pm: [report]

@effing hickster: they got procedure for that too!
As for spillage (lying down), true, guys here like some, as long as they’re not tripping on ‘em (literally and figuratively), so I’ll amend to sloppage. Maybe it bothers us (women) more.

Jenn27549
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 03:13 pm: [report]

As far as fake breasts go there are guys who fall both ways.  My BIL is crazy for stupid (what I call) clownboobs.  WAY big, way round, way hard, way fake.  I’ve known plenty of guys who prefer fake to real, even if not for size—just b/c they are fake.  The reasons could be many…one of which is that she is willing to go that far to be aesthetically pleasing to men.

As for the rest of plastic surgery goes, its not all clownboobs and bad botox.  I got my nose done 2 years ago and it was all for me.  Everyone I knew said they hadn’t noticed anything wrong with it and my husband said he was cool with whatever decision I made.  It had bugged me since I was little.  I didn’t want to look at it in pictures anymore.  Its subtle, doesn’t look the least bit fake (no Heidi Montag crap over here).  Once I had it done people said they could tell a major difference between the before/after, but still thought it was fine before.  It really changed the overall composition of my face, not just the nose size.  I guess weather or not it made me “more attractive” overall is subjective, but I’m alot happier now.  Maybe its shallow, but why go through life with something that bothers you when the solution is so simple.  What does it matter who, what or why?  Its not hurting anyone else, so I say why not???  It was sort of spur of the moment.  I had never given tons of thought to having anything done about it, and then one day I walked past a plastic surgeon’s office on the way to another appointment and just randomly thought, “nose job.”  6 weeks later it was done.

Kathls
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 03:38 pm: [report]

I don’t wear perfume or body sprays, but surprisingly enough I get a lot of compliments on my detergent, lol (Gain Lavender).  And I completely agree about doing these things for yourself.  Yeah, I do wear smokey eye when I go out b/c I want to look hot for the public, but I like the way it makes me feel as well .

And fortunately for me, I don’t actually tan so I don’t have to pay for cancer, but I did have one guy flat out tell me that I needed to go to the tanning bed.  I’m polish and Swiss, what can I say, I’m white.  But I got rid of his vain, sorry ass shortly there after ... tool.

I could care less about labels for men or women.  I care about what it looks like.  While I haven’t had cosmetic surgery, I do have an imaginary list of things I’d have done if I was rich.  I say, if it makes you happy, and it doesn’t leave you looking jacked up, go for it.

Little Lamb
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 03:53 pm: [report]

The thing is…wearing make-up may not impress a man, but not wearing any, makes me (and most women) look dead, so not wearing it is unimpressive.

I wouldn’t say I wear make-up specifically to impress men, but I run to grocery store without make-up, but I would never go on a first date without it on.

40yrolddad
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 04:31 pm: [report]

delovely said: 

“3. I can’t think of a single woman who wore a name brand to impress a MAN. We are more than aware that you have NO IDEA what label we’re wearing, but other women do and we just love designers, mmk?”

isn’t that how Reese Whetherspoon’s character in Legally Blond figured out the pool guy was gay (-> not having an affair w/the woman)?  they were at the water fountain outside the courtroom & he insulted her <some designer> pumps (“ugly, last year’s”) & the light bulb went off for her… 

nonenone
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 04:35 pm: [report]

that may be true for older guys… but all of those are true for younger men

nonenone
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 04:38 pm: [report]

i meant that NONE of it is true for younger guys

tattooed_redhead
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 04:45 pm: [report]

I always get compliments on my perfume from men I date. They often even ask what it is, and when I tell them (Pure Poison) they seem to like it even more!

Queen Frostine
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 05:01 pm: [report]

Hmm.. I think makeup, subtle perfume and stylish clothes can impress a man. Albeit indirectly. A woman who takes time to moisturize, flick some mascara on, dab some clean scent on her wrists and don a flattering outfit could be translated as impressive, by thinking that this is a woman who takes care of herself and takes time out to add in a few extra special touches because she’s thinking of you. Men do appreciate natural beauty but the right shade of lipstick and a dress that flatters your assets can stop traffic.

Lynn
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 05:35 pm: [report]

OK, gotta be honest: when I saw the title of this article in my RSS reader, I was excited because it sounded awesome. I thought it would talk about the idiocy of drinking beer you hate, etc. But in reality all of these things are things that I know a man, personally, who likes it. Not only that but a lot of them (makeup, perfume) are things that almost EVERY man I know likes. No one likes it when you overdo either of those things but almost every guy in my life, romantic or platonic, has said something along the lines of “you look really pretty today” when I put extra effort into my makeup or “you smell awesome” when I’ve spritzed on some perfume. Article letdown syndrome.

effing hickster
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 05:37 pm: [report]

@Jenn27549: I’m assuming clownboobs honk when you squeeze them?

Shasta
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 05:58 pm: [report]

Two Items:

NUBMER ONE
@Lynn - Bingo. Men like women who look attractive, so any of these things that make a women look pretty are good. But girls are always tempted to to put on just a little more….and they end up looking Kabuki or like Malibu Barbie.

NUMBER TWO
I disagree that women are doing these things “for men.” They’re doing them to make themselves pretty, thus feel good about themselves and project a sense of confidence.

Confidence is attractive.  If a girl was on a date not wearing makeup “for a man,” she’s be obsessing about her blemish and the night would be terrible.

retro chic
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 06:08 pm: [report]

@40yrolddad: haha, OK, straight-guy. I was thinking the same thing with the Legally Blonde character Enrique! My daughter loves to imitate that line:

“Donta stomp your last-season Prada shoes at me, Hone-y.”

I just thought it was Phil here trying to make that point (and maybe you too, come to think of it) that straight guys will go overboard to not give appearance of following designers (or movies that spoof gay men who do/straight men who don’t follow them) lest they be “accused” of being gay.

retro chic
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 06:17 pm: [report]

@Shasta: Make up aside, I think Kabuki and Barbie faces might actually move more than some women’s.

AffluentBlue
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 06:54 pm: [report]

I have to disagree with this article. I don’t know who wrote it, but that man speaks for himself.
A faint smelling perfume can be a turn on so long as it smells good, obviously.

A woman with a nice natural tan looks more attractive than a woman who’s as white as the paint on my walls. It also advertises to me that she is active outdoors, which is also something I like. (hiking, swimming, volleyball ect.) Its shows a healthy lifestyle.

And a little makeup can work wonders, but a lot of makeup makes me wonder what she’s covering up.

Name brand clothes show she has style, and is doing well enough in life to buy the finer made clothes, as opposed to the cheap clothes that never fit or look right at your local k mart.

Plastic surgery isn’t so much to make her look beautiful, its to change something about her that she doesn’t like, to make her feel better about herself.
Same for men.
Let’s say I have a big nose. And I want it smaller. I’m not going to look like Brad Pitt after the surgery, but I will feel more better about myself and be more confident. Which in return will allow me to relax more, and focus on being myself. Instead of worrying what everyone is thinking of my big honker.

_jsw_
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 07:14 pm: [report]

My thoughts:

1. Perfume. Any man who claims he does not like perfume has not smelled the right perfume on his woman. Period.

2. Tanning. Unhealthy tans are bad. Some women look great in tans, some don’t. I don’t think a tan is in any way necessary, but I’ve seen it look damned hot, and tan lines can be wicked sexy. But unhealthy. But… sexy.

3. Name Brands.It’s not the name brand, it’s the quality of the attire. Not that we care what you’re wearing - an old t-shirt and sweats will get us going - but many of us can appreciate good name brands.

4. Makeup.Agreed that too much is used too frequently. You don’t need it, but we do appreciate it when it’s done well, and sparsely.

5. Cosmetic Surgery. If it makes you feel better about yourself, fine, although I’m not typically a fan. But never ever ever do it to get a man. We’re just not worth potentially deadly anethesia and the insertion of artificial things into your body.

ChoJinn
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 07:15 pm: [report]

Whoa - #5, really?  Those are some gross generalizations.  Boyfriend dump you for some fake-boobed girl or something?

Being well endowed is attractive…to a point.
Wearing perfume is attractive…to a point.
Wearing makeup is attractive…to a point.
Presuming the clothes look good, wearing designer labels is attractive…to a point.
Elective cosmetic surgery is attractive…to a point.

The point is: don’t overdo anything.

cali_candy
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 07:59 pm: [report]

Learning how much stuff my man DOESN’T notice makes life so much easier for me (and more cost effective).
-Smell: He likes the smell of my soap/shampoo, so I just bathe everyday then I’m set
-Accessories/jewelry: he just checks to make sure I’m wearing my engagement ring. Earrings are usually dangerous since they always manage to get caught in his shirt. hands, etc. and end up just huring me. He only notices boobs, not anything that might be dangling above them, unless the necklace is right on a nipple or something
-Clothes/shoes: everytime I make an effort to dress up/sexy the clothes don’t stay on very long
-Makeup: my skin is too dark for much of it to matter anyways, plus the lipstick will just end up on him so what’s the point

So basically I just sit around in my sweats and pajamas and it’s just as good from his point of view. I always felt like getting done up was something girls did for other girls (to impress them? show off?) anyways.

ARealGuy4Ever
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 08:04 pm: [report]

The statements are too black and white.

A lite scent is great. I should have to be amost skin to skin to smell it and it is an awesome reminder when I can smell it in my hair or on the pillow a few hours later =)

Tanning, no need. Better that skin is not leathery and sun damaged.

All I know is if she looks good in what she’s wearing. The outfit could cost $40 or $300 and I won’t know the difference.

Like perfume the secret is in moderation. A little can be magic. A lot is gross.

Speaking as a breast guy natural is awesome and the best, but if a gal has next to nothing or they sag to mid belly theses wonders of nature can back fire. If my belly gets soft I can diet and exercise to bring back the tone, but last I checked you can’t exercise firmness back into breast (or hair back on your head). In those cases a little work can do wonders. But for average (less then 6’ tall) women a C cup or even just a lift is enough.

And don’t get me started on augmentation on teenagers. If I was running the show it would be agaist the law unless medically needed (cancer for example).

In the end, a little effort goes a long way, but a lot of effort has rapidly deminishing returns.

EarthGoddess
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 09:10 pm: [report]

#1. My husband ALWAYS mentions to me how good I smell when he hugs me ... so I know he notices and appreciates the body spray I wear everyday (or perfume for special occasions).

#2. I’m Irish and pale as a ghost. I burn to a crisp almost instantly, and think the spray stuff looks too fake, so he’s never seen me tan. Obviously, he doesn’t care about my fair complexion.

#3. Neither of us are into the designer stuff, unless we find something for a steal at an outlet. Why waste money on something just for a brand name?

#4. Makeup is a MUST for my hubby .... no negotiating. I happen to love wearing it (and have since I was 13), so no worries there. Playing with colors, brands, application, etc is fun!

#5. No one is ever cutting me open or injecting something into me unless it’s medically necessary. Not a chance ever.

retro chic
wrote on September 16 2009 @ 09:19 pm: [report]

@ARealGuy4Ever: I agree. I think it’s just a matter of taking care of yourself, which is, as you said: moderation. Also, there should be better regulations/laws (and not just the teen issue) about PS since Docs see dollar-signs and are all too willing to look the other way. I don’t subscribe to going under the knife (myself) unless medically necessary. It’s too bad post mastectomy augmentation isn’t considered medically necessary. Insurance companies would cover it then. Like they would a prosthetic leg for an amputee.

Yoo-hoo, @ChoJinn, I’m over here. What a strange presumptive comment. I qualified my statement. I never said I dated these men I spoke of (they’re my attorney/businessman friends), and whose wives I know, in our demographic sphere here in LA. The men I’ve dated and SOs have never seriously discussed it and have no body issues other than for health and fitness, ‘cause I don’t get with men that might have those neg issues.
I realize someone on every thread has to take on the dirty job of heralding the mandatory “anti-generalization” call-out, and by gosh, you did it. Well done. Anyhoo, I def agree with you about doing all these things in moderation, which is how I live personally, fyi. Except when doing my rebuttals, haha. cheers

ps: no tans are healthy tans as they were once presumed. Unless you count self-tanners. Who knows how healthy that’s going to turn out to be.

sfdagny
wrote on September 17 2009 @ 10:10 am: [report]

@LayD - I agree, Aqua Di Gio is an INSTANT turn on! Seriously, any guy could catch my attention just by wearing that scent. It’s incredible how scents can bring up memories and feelings so strongly.

pinkwhiskey
wrote on September 17 2009 @ 10:14 am: [report]

I’ve just got to say. I wear my perfume for me. Love them! But I basically do unscented everything else. But I have dated several men who comment on and love the scents I wear. One guy loved it when I got ready at his place because it “made his bathroom smell like me”

I have also dated men, mostly the older ones, who liked a girl with a tan, and implied/or stated directly that I looked better in my tan vacation photos than my normal Irish self. One guy, who was ironically one of my top 5, had a thing for white lingerie and liked how a tan set it off. I tried my hand at self tanner for a while, but it’s just a pain and I burn the real way. I decided to just make up for it by being extra fun in bed!

Never had any one weird about the brands I was sporting or plastic surgery. I do admire a man who appreciates fine fashion on himself though!

The makeup thing is this. I don’t wear this #&@$% for anyone but me. I am vain about how I look in the mirror and do not care for myself without it. While I wear very little on my face, I wear very heavy eye makeup. Most men are sweet and compliment me when I’m au naturel but definitely seem to have a preference for the glowy skin and amazing eyes I have with the makeup applied.

Alll in all, this could just be the type of man I go for. And that’s okay with me!

SassyDaisy
wrote on September 17 2009 @ 11:57 am: [report]

GEeeez…the way some ppl talk about implants here are making me even more confused and scared…lol..”..deadly anethesia..” i was doing it for me but since you put it that way forget it i love being alive and small sized…hahaha

SummertimeFirefly
wrote on September 17 2009 @ 02:21 pm: [report]

@ Queen Frostine…I think you are exactly right!

moonblossom
wrote on September 17 2009 @ 02:46 pm: [report]

LOL #4 - one of my ex’s loved the Cure. Shoulda been my first clue

majicksand
wrote on September 17 2009 @ 03:12 pm: [report]

Heeeyyy, The Cure rocks!  We’re all just jealous we can’t pull off Robert Smith’s look.  Props to Tammy Faye for trying though.

daisyb
wrote on September 17 2009 @ 06:48 pm: [report]

@effing hickster—White Linen is classy, I agree. Unfortunately my ex-husband ruined it for me when he announced his mom wore it, too. Can’t say I’ve done more with it than sniff the bottle since…

magenta generation
wrote on September 17 2009 @ 08:13 pm: [report]

There are women who actually go out of their way trying to impress men? Seriously.

Gingee
wrote on September 17 2009 @ 08:44 pm: [report]

Oh vey:

When I wore perfume, it was to please me. 

Tanning - Never have, never will.  I love my pale skin as it is.

Name brands - One purchases for quality. If a name brand has the look I want, that’s fine.

Make-up:  Never have, never will use that stuff. 

Cosmetic surgery:  Now this, a face-lift I would consider, but not to attract some male. It would be only to keep myself competitive in the work force.

One man’s opinion on how I look and smell da da da matters. The rest are background noise.  However, if a woman likes what I’m wearing, now that is a compliment that I’ll cherish.

cadyms
wrote on September 17 2009 @ 11:48 pm: [report]

Perfume: My bf’s parents smoked, and I think it damaged his sense of smell. There are tons of things I can smell that he can’t, including any perfume I wear. So if I wear it, it’s just for me.

Breasts: He is not a fan of fake ones.  He’ll comment, “too bad they’re fake,” a decision he usually makes based on how “gravity defying” they are.

Make-up: I think he likes how I look when I wear make-up, but just doesn’t realize that’s what he likes.  It’s the overall picture, however one makes that come together.

@magentageneration- Well, I’d hope so!  If something matters to me, I’m going to make an effort to get it.  That’s true if it’s a job interview or a first date.  And that can be done without any of the theatrics or throwing yourself on the floor begging for attention things we’d all like to avoid.

effing hickster
wrote on September 18 2009 @ 03:00 am: [report]

@daisyb: Yes, I think they need to pull some of those older perfumes back out of the basement. White Linen, of course, Toujour Moi, Givenchy, etc.
Don’t feel bad about the mom thing. It’s just a really lovely scent if it’s not applied too heavily.

taalibba
wrote on September 20 2009 @ 08:51 pm: [report]

Makeup is for me, not you, sorry.

MuchoMacho
wrote on September 23 2009 @ 09:23 am: [report]

i saw some chick out last sat and her perfume was driving me nuts in the good way.  she said it was very sexy from vickys.  fyi.  she was a 7 but her perfume had me hooked.  instantly a 9.  its rare, but there are certain ones that scream SEX ME.

moonshine
wrote on September 24 2009 @ 10:24 am: [report]

I had breast augmentation. I had three children in three years while married to an abusive man, and when I left him, my mother bought them for me. She called it “resurrection surgery”. I think she meant “reconstructive”. Either way, it worked. They’re not huge, they just make me look like I did when I was breastfeeding. And they’re not hard, either- my doctor gave me a list of massages to do every night, and they’re soft, supple, and spectacular. It was a big deal to get them, and they make me happy and I feel sexy - that confidence is what’s attractive. And it’s also a great place for me to keep my ipod when I’m at work.

beeper
wrote on September 26 2009 @ 02:33 pm: [report]

I had a breast aug and I have NEVER had a man reject me for it. I really don’t think it is a big deal.

Art M.
wrote on September 26 2009 @ 06:58 pm: [report]

THANK YOU!  THIS ARTICLE IS SPOT-ON!!!!!

1. Perfume is VERY annoying.

2. Tanning. Fake tans look fake.  Real tans are lovely if subtle, but the effect on skin over even a brief time is grim. 

3. Name Brands. Puhleeze. All you need is jeans, t-shirt, pony tail, and NO makeup or perfume.  Gap is fine.  Express.  Old Navy.  Name brands tend suggest a stuffy, self-absorbed attitude.

4. Makeup. Women have a natural radiance that is spectacularly beautiful and even hypnotic.  This radiance is HIDDEN by makeup.  Make-up destroys female beauty.  It sucks.

5. Cosmetic Surgery.  Usually obvious and grotesque.

Titi
wrote on September 26 2009 @ 09:21 pm: [report]

Right on. I think men are oblivious to many of our beautifying techniques. My hubby never notices if I’m wearing make-up—and that’s the damn point.

The only men I’ve dated that noticed clothes were European men. Perhaps that’s a cultural thing.

Actually, I always get a ton of compliments on the way I smell, but I think it’s mostly the Aveda hair products. I don’t wear regular perfume, but I sometimes rock a solid perfume from India that is very subtle.

Ah, fake boobs. I’m a natural 32DDD, so I think y’all augmenters are insane to choose that fate.
My hubby always says that fake boobs (and tiny dogs in purses) are sure signs of emotional problems.

Faith+1
wrote on September 27 2009 @ 06:14 am: [report]

Well, I’m one guy Phil here isn’t speaking for.

1. Perfume. I love a nice scent on a woman.  Like anything too much is a turn off, but a nice, subtle, sexy scent can drive me wild.

2. Tanning. Spray-On Orange Glow is just bad. A nice natural looking tan can be attractive.  Leather hard skin is a definite turn off.

3. Name Brands. Dude, you are way off. Women don’t buy name brands to impress men.  They buy them to impress other women.  Item doesn’t belong in this article.  Most men don’t care for name brands at all because we are generally picturing you naked.

4.  Makeup.  Similar to perfume. Done right and it can look awesome.  Too much and it’s a turn off.

5. Cosmetic Surgery.  Doesn’t phase me one way or another.  I was shocked to find out my girlfriend had implants because they felt natural.  She did it for her own reasons that had nothing to do with men. She’s over 40 and occasionally does a touch up here and there because things just don’t stay in place like they did when she was 20.  However, she does it for her own reasons. If I ever told her she should go get something nipped or tucked to impress me I need cosmetic surgery to replace my testicles.

rain
wrote on October 3 2009 @ 10:17 am: [report]

Although there’s some truth in this article, I think saying that these things don’t impress men is only applicable in the extreme cases.
Most men love a light spritz of perfume on a girl. Something light, subtle - it adds a certain something.
Orange tan is a big no-no, but there’s something sexy about a bit of colour on a girls cheeks and body. Like she’s not afraid to get outside and play some sport.
When it comes to clothes it’s not about the brand, it’s about how polished and put together a girl looks. And let’s face it, designer clothes are generally of a better quality and fit than something picked up at Wallmart.
When guys say they like the ‘natural’ look, they mean they like the ‘i didn’t spend 3 hours in the bathroom’ look. A bit of makeup makes you look like you care about looking nice. And for that, i’m sure they’re not going to care if it’s a bit smudged the next morning.
Finally, plastic surgery- well sure, fake boobs and lips look tacky. But some good plastic surgery can make all the difference to someone’s life. Even if the change isn’t huge, if it makes someone more confident, then that surely counts for something.
I think what the author meant is that guys aren’t turned on by girls with huge fake tits, fake tan, blue eyeshadow, and who are doused in awful purfume. But really, do we need an article to tell us that?

Art M.
wrote on October 3 2009 @ 10:38 am: [report]

Hi rain.  To judge by womens behavior, yes, we need an article to tell us this.  I am particularly troubled by this situation because I think that feminine radiance is so powerful and so beautiful and heavy make-up perfume etc completely destroy it.

When I was in my 20’s in NYC several times I met some lovely women and asked her out and when they showed up on date they would always look awful.  When initially I met them - at a movie, in supermarket, etc - they were so lovely!  I thought it was me.  It took me years to realize it was the makeup.  Slow learner I guess.

But still, what do I do?  Meet a women in supermarket and ask her for a date “but please don’t wear any more makeup than you have on now”?  I have tried asking women to wear less or no makeup saying “you look so beautiful without heavy makeup” and it always seem to offend them.  I don’t get it.  They are proud of their heavy hideous make-up.

I wish I was exaggerating.

So yes we need more than an article about this.

We need a f—king revolution!!!!

Art

butters84
wrote on October 5 2009 @ 05:09 pm: [report]

I actually agree with all five.  Pale skin can actually be really hot on some girls.  But if nothing else, I prefer real over fake.  Though with makeup, eyeliner is hot in my opinion.

Smells, perfume is overrated.  Usually when I’m liking how a girl smells, its some fruity shampoo thing.

Though I would add to the list, don’t attempt to be one of the guys.  Seriously.  It’s somewhat irritating and quite embarrassing.  Don’t get me wrong, we like when you take an interest, but it comes off as extremely phony when we see you trying to be like us.  We like it when you want to watch a movie we like or sports game or heck, even try to play a video game with us.  We won’t care if you’re bad, though we will probably laugh, but dont take that personally.

But for the love of God, don’t start farting (either to fit in or teach us a lesson.  periods are not an issue with us, but your farting is.  its just not a smell we want to associate with you.  you’re sweeter than that.), don’t start yelling at the game or team like a lifetime fan when you’ve only known about them for a week. 

And frankly, its a turn off when you try to take a man’s attitude about things.  My brother dated a girl who tried a little too hard to be tough and such and when she’d used slang like “on the rag” and things like that, it comes out awkward.  I think its more there are things that guys only talk to each other about in a certain way, and things girls only talk about to each other in a certain.  If you say “on the rag” to your girl friends (just as an example), fine.  But you don’t want to hear us talking about sex like we do with guys, do you?  I don’t think I’m saying exactly what I mean here, but I hope you get the idea.

Plastic surgery is not necessary.  No matter what you think is wrong, there will be some guy out there who will like it or not even notice it.  IMHO, big breasts are overrated.  Big noses (where the bridge rides a bit high), a girl I currently have a thing for has one of these and I honestly think it adds to her beauty.

And the whole “Tan means ‘healthy lifestyle’” thing.  People who prioritize “healthy lifestyles” usually make me want to gag.  In my experience, it usually indicates a somewhat pretentious, holier than thou, we’re better than you attitude.  But that is just my opinion.  I’d much prefer a girl who prefers to bury her nose (big or small) in a book.  They are just more interesting.  And no, this doesn’t mean I sit on my arse all day and eat like a pig.  I’m referring more to those who have to broadcast it. 

But I’m sure those people will strike back with “reading doesn’t make you better than me” or something like that.  Never said better, I said more interesting

SouthOC
wrote on October 8 2009 @ 03:49 pm: [report]

As demonstrated by this thread, you cannot classify all women or all men into a %$@&ing; list!

Our tastes, opinions, and characteristics vary greatly, and I thank God for that.  I’d hate to think all of us are just cookie cutter versions of some unchangeable cosmic plan.

SouthOC
wrote on October 8 2009 @ 03:57 pm: [report]

That being said, here are my preferences:

1. Perfume:  Love it if not overdone.

2. Tanning:  Only if you tan well, if you have naturally light skin, embrace it sister!

3. Name Brands:  It’s quality that counts.  If you buy it only for the name, you’re a sucker.

4. Makeup:  Only a little bit.

5. Cosmetic Surgery:  Don’t do it unless you’ve been in a hideous car crash.  Otherwise, you’re beautiful just the way you are.

The main point I’m trying to make is that men love women.  If you feel pressured to change yourself to please a particular guy, move on to someone who will be attracted to YOU, no something you have to manufacture.

Rokkor
wrote on October 14 2009 @ 06:10 pm: [report]

Thank you. No woman believes me when I try to point these things out. If you reek of vanilla or pear-apple-berry, that’s repulsive. You’re an adult, you should smell like one. Unless you naturally smell awful, those no reason to douse yourself in anything.

Tanning gets ridiculous here. I live in the midwest and, even in the winter (when no sane person would ever spend more time outside than absolutely required) there’s women walking around with that creepy orange Oompa Loompa glow, convinced that it makes them look sexy. And, yeah, Ralph Lauren is probably the only designer I’ve ever heard of. No straight guy is ever going to give a second thought to where you got that top.

swteeknz
wrote on October 23 2009 @ 01:14 am: [report]

I’ve been flirting with this guy for some time now, and he misses my obvious comments.  He doesn’t seem to notice the compliments on his clothes, how nice he smells, how great his smile is or even the compliment about how working out is really working for him!  I always smile, have good eye contact, listen and look up through my long lashes at him.  Short of printing it on my T-shirt, I don’t know how he could be missing the obvious?  (And I know for a fact he’s not gay.)
My make-up isn’t over done, I don’t wear tons of perfume, my hair is mid-length but simple, so according to what I read I should be getting some response.  I’m starting to think it’s the “Nice Girl” curse.  Li’l does he know there’s a lot more to me than that! 

_jsw_
wrote on October 23 2009 @ 12:07 pm: [report]

@swteeknz: There are at least four possibilities: (1) he’s just not into you, (2) he’s already with someone,  (3) he thinks you might be taken, or (4) he’s clueless.

#1 you can’t do anything about.
#2 will likely change with time.
#3 and #4 can be resolved by actually, oh, asking him out.

Gingee
wrote on October 23 2009 @ 02:58 pm: [report]

SWTEEKNZ:

He just isn’t into you. If he were, he would be pursuing you.

The compliments on his clothing, how nice he smells, and the rest:  You are wasting your time.  He probably knows that you are interested, and he’s not responding the way you want because:

He isn’t into you.

He might place you into the category of Place Holder, the gal he calls when The One is not available, or they’ve broken up, but that’s it.

You could try asking him out, and it can go two ways:  He can refuse, or he will show up for one time and never return because he knows that the two of you will never be a couple.

He MIGHT have another guy or gal, who can tell these days, but he’s being kind by igoring your so-called hits.  Do you actually want him to tell you that he’s not interested?

You are getting a response; just not the one you want.

Pay attention to what he does, and pay no attention to what hs says, and you have it:  His response, so far, has been to ignore you.

Temujin
wrote on October 27 2009 @ 04:45 pm: [report]

Girls that try to play hard to get are just annoying.  Girls that think they are the sexiest thing alive most men with any experience know better.  I had a girl in high school brag to me how she had been in more relationships and had so much more experience than me.  Girls that will never say I love you and always gotta look tough a I’m sexy i break guys hearts they never break mine thing.  Met a lot of girls like that.  They constantly want to test you and make you feel insecure.  They won’t let you be nice or romantic, although they will let you spend money on them, and are even more likely to call you a wuss than other guys, there no fun.  The only thing is they can work. On young guys and on stupid weak guys( weak and stupid guys are often the ones busy lookling tough)

Yodar Critch
wrote on November 19 2009 @ 12:40 pm: [report]

Of course I can only speak for myself,  but I am glad the article mentioned excessive make up.

1.  You don’t need make up, really.  Women have a natural beauty that attracts me.  It is not a cheesy pickup line nor am I bull-stiening anyone, truly, you look beautiful without make up.

2.  If you want me to caress your cheek, kiss you, or snuggle/hug you, please don’t wear a lot of make up.  I don’t like wearing make up, and I sure don’t like wearing your make up.  Heavy makeup means “don’t touch”.  Ever kiss a lady on the cheek when she has makeup on?  Yuck!

Concerning fakeos?  I don’t like them.  Expounding on the make up issue, a woman’s breasts are just fine and beautiful they way they are.  Really, I know you are no longer 20 years old and I am ok with that.  And I wish you were also.

A woman’s breast is too beautiful of a thing to mutilate to an unnatural size/shape.

If a woman is willing to mutilate her body to “look beautiful” I have to wonder what she is thinking about my body.  :(

SVTCandy
wrote on December 31 2009 @ 12:48 pm: [report]

I’m about a month out from breast augmentation surgery.  Did I have it done for a man?  No!  I thought about it for years.  I visited 4 different doctors, waited another year, and then pulled the trigger as a birthday present to myself.  I don’t think there’s anything wrong with wanting to look proportional and having clothes fit me better.

You shouldn’t assume everyone going under the knife has low self-esteem, is going for the extreme (think triple Ds!), or is trying to bait men.  I dress conservatively, work in a professional setting, and paid a lot of money to not look like a circus freak.

Just be aware there are other motivations and not everyone’s lives revolve around men.

Mariza
wrote on December 31 2009 @ 12:53 pm: [report]

Men misunderstand the reasons why women attend to their looks. It is easy to explain to a man, though, because there is a psychologically equivalent need in a man. A man needs to know he is sexually potent. Is this because he wants to cater to women? No, it’s not a “service to women” and it is not to “impress women”. A man living alone in the woods will be much happier if he knows he is potent. Same thing with a woman. Women need to feel they have the looks. This is not a “service to men” and it is not to “impress men”. A 90-year old woman living alone in the woods will be much happier if she sees some “spark” in her reflection on the lake’s surface. That’s just human nature.

Albondigas
wrote on December 31 2009 @ 07:39 pm: [report]

So… was just browsing around… a fun article. Not my usual fare… and started reading the comments—I HAVE to comment on the breast/fake breast topic. First, I truly resent people like GreenAura pretending to speak for MEN on the issue of women’s breasts. There’s a general saying… though not frequently enough heard… that the lower a guy’s IQ, the more he’s into big breasts.  I’ve found it to be roughly true. There are exceptions, of course, but most women’s breasts are lovely as they are, imperfect or small as they may be. If they’re altered, or too big, many of us men are unhappy about it. Though, if it’s a troglodyte you want to attract—by all means get big, nasty fake ones. And… thank you effing hickster… for… Clownboobs! Hadn’t heard that one… love it! You have the right idea.

KatieBlue
wrote on January 4 2010 @ 11:44 am: [report]

Women buy name brand clothes and accessories for the same reason a man buys tools and motor vehicles with a name on it that he wants - because that name makes products that she likes the look of and how they are made.

Just because a guy thinks he’s just as sexy and good looking in a pair of walmart suit as he does in a well fitteed name suit doesn’t mean he is.

Don’t be silly, nobody buys Ralph Lauren just because that name is on it.  They buy it because they like the style, it’s flattering and well structured.

jeanjeanie
wrote on January 4 2010 @ 01:17 pm: [report]

I guess baking now also.. My ex has this new girl that he is messing aorund with and she bakes him so much stuff! Cookies and cupcakes constantly.. While it is nice.. it seems a little much. She is only 20 years old and Betty Crocker is having to battle with her. I’ll make things for the new guy I’m seeing.. but not everytime. Seriously! Baking?!??!?!?

Shriekback68
wrote on January 4 2010 @ 02:17 pm: [report]

I don’t know a single man who likes fake breasts. Not one. Too often these lists interchange “men” with “boys.”

The makeup thing: YES. I love women without makeup! And yes, we CAN tell when you’re wearing it…even if it’s very subtle.

The tan thing: too much tanning looks awful. Seriously, it can actually look unhealthy. A little bit of color is okay, but too much and you start looking like a piece of beef jerky.

Gingee
wrote on January 4 2010 @ 03:34 pm: [report]

What’s with the baking?  My friends call me Dolly Domestic, whatever that is.

I do all of my cooking, and a lot of it is baking.  I would not go out of my way to create something that took a lot of effort, but cookies and cupcakes one can do while almost still asleep.

Gingee

Gingee
wrote on January 4 2010 @ 04:30 pm: [report]

SVTCandy:

ALL that matters is this:  Are YOU happy with your looks?

That’s it.  YOu do not owe anyone else any explanation or justification.  It’s your body, do as you wish with it.

FTR, I intend to have plastic surgery on the lower part of my face, and a large part IS Vanity. That, plus it will give me one heck of an edge in the job market that I am about to enter:  Owning my own company.

I dress conservatively, cover every bit of skin possible, and follow John T. Molloy’s Women’s How to Dress for Success advice.  One thing he is spot on about:  Appearance matters. That is why men and women have face lifts or other alterations.  Looking youthful is an asset, as much as wearing the best clothing.

Who cares if men do not like fake breasts?  Gods, what a mindset, to think that all we do is about pleasing them. 

Anyway, best of luck to ya.

Gingee

Faith+1
wrote on January 4 2010 @ 04:45 pm: [report]

swteeknz,

Let’s see. You’ve done:
-the compliments on his clothes
-how nice he smells
-complimented his smile
-even the compliment about how working out is really working for him!
-always smile, have good eye contact, listen and look up through my long lashes at him. 

Hmmm, where to start… How about the obvious?

Did you ever just ask him out for lunch or coffee? Hon, you aren’t looking for a man, you’re looking for a mind reader.

So much time and energy wasted and could be avoided by simply saying “I really like talking to you and would like to have lunch/coffee/dinner with you to get to know you better.” will either get you a date or a reason you don’t wish to pursue him. (i.e. he’s in a relationship, gay, celibate etc)

If you want a guy who picks up on the subtle clues then you already know the answer to this potential romeo. Move on.

Us guys like be asked out too ya know!

Yodar Critch
wrote on January 4 2010 @ 04:55 pm: [report]

“I really like talking to you and would like to have lunch/coffee/dinner with you to get to know you better.”

What an awesome pick-up line. 

If only more people used that line.  LoL

Susie
wrote on January 4 2010 @ 05:21 pm: [report]

Plastic surgery is just like makeup, if done right, you don’t realize it’s not real. It’s those crazy DDD bimbos that give it a bad rap. But there are lots and lots of “regular” woman who get surgery, look beautiful, and you’d never know they aren’t 100% natural.
People hold a grudge against plastic surgery, but nobody thinks twice when somebody gets braces. Both accomplish the same goal (for most people it’s to look better). I’ve had both and can tell you braces are a lot more painful.

daisyb
wrote on January 4 2010 @ 06:35 pm: [report]

Yup. Baking.

shannooonski
wrote on January 4 2010 @ 09:05 pm: [report]

i like to wear perfumes that are oils so they stay close to your body.. not entering the room before you. i hate that so many products for women smell like food! i dont want to smell like fruit or candy.  recently, my BF wouldnt let me shower before getting it on.. saying ’ i want to smell the woman that you are’ that was sexy.
  too much makeup is never attractive…
and i dislike fake boobs. and as far as plastic surgery.. flaws are what make people beautiful and interesting.. not perfection.

Lynn
wrote on January 6 2010 @ 04:43 pm: [report]

@jeanjeanie - woah, bitter much? Some people just like baking.

Yodar Critch
wrote on January 6 2010 @ 04:47 pm: [report]

Nothing says lovin
Like something from the Oven

papaytwins
wrote on January 6 2010 @ 04:52 pm: [report]

perfume:  I used to wear my ex-boyfriend’s deodorant and I could see why he didn’t like me smelling exactly like him. I’ve also been with a man that just loved the scent of my bare skin or my sweat, but that’s body chemistry. I agree that men like warmer, sweeter smells like vanilla.  I personally have a couple of different scents (musky, floral, fresh, sweet, etc) that I wear depending on my mood.  And I like to save that one special scent to arouse his memories of the last time/first time I wore it.  Like a reserve perfume.  The last thing I’ll say about perfume is that it’s slightly over-rated.  The scent of a woman’s hair is soo sexy. Like shampoo, hair oil/cream. I sometimes put a spritz of perfume in my hair or use yummy hair lotions and when he hugs me he’s just close enough to smell it.

tanning:  fake tans are so obvious and so telling of a woman trying too hard.  A real tan (also obvious) is slimming, youthful and sexy. Plus, donning only a seasonal tan gives you a fresh look every summer that assures that he can’t take your beauty for granted too easily.
I also heard once, that you should never trust a man with a tan stomache because that shows he doesn’t work very hard

designer labels:  you cannot tell me that paying a little extra for fine fabric, good fit,and precise tailoring isn’t worth it if it makes you look pretty and feel confident. It isn’t the label, it’s that you’re buying quality (just like you want to attract). I know that I’m at my best when I feel like the most put together woman in the room, and that’s what my man notices.

Makeup: if it’s done right, the man has no idea how much you’re wearing, what brand or what shade.  All he knows, is that your eyes seem to sparkle and he wants to make love with the lights on.

Plastic surgery: whatever floats your boats.  But I think it should be like makeup too—subtle.  A nose job to make your profile more striking is very different from chin, cheek and lip implants.  And a breast lift does not have to mean that your nipples sit just below your collarbone.

jeanjeanie
wrote on January 7 2010 @ 11:58 am: [report]

Lynn- haha! definitely not bitter. I just think it is nuts how much this girl bakes for him when they are just sleeping together. I mean.. I like baking and making food. I made some mousse for the guy I’m seing. But that was once. I think giving a guy baked goods everytime you see them is a little excessive.

Yodar Critch
wrote on January 7 2010 @ 12:28 pm: [report]

“It isn’t the label, it’s that you’re buying quality”

Two words:  Louis Vuitton

It’s the name. 

Gingee
wrote on January 7 2010 @ 12:39 pm: [report]

For advice on how to dress in quality clothing that one can afford:  One name - John T. Molloy.

BackdoorMan
wrote on January 7 2010 @ 03:15 pm: [report]

Plastic surgery is false advertising. Lets say an ugly woman who has had extensive plastic surgery and now looks great marries a nice looking man. He expects to have nice looking children but instead they come out looking like they got beat with the ugly stick. Also, fake boobs suck. They feel like like plastic. I would much rather play with the real thing. Real breasts look better in most cases and feel better in every case.

Gingee
wrote on January 7 2010 @ 04:22 pm: [report]

Plastic surgery may be False Advertising but so what?

Most ALL of us do some of this so-called false advertising.  Men who have worn braces, who have used Accutane for acne, and for that matter, men who wear lifts in their shoes: All guilty of false advertising.

Any guy who thinks that marrying a pretty woman means pretty kids is delusional. 

We’re ALL going to die; and given that none of us is guaranteed that we will be alive tomorrow, why fret over another woman’s decision to improve her looks?

One day, she must might be showing photographs of her as the Younger Version to the grandkids and saying “Yes, I was beautiful on the outside then.”

Gingee

Gingee

shells4u
wrote on January 23 2010 @ 11:19 pm: [report]

When I was a child I know I was beautiful then and am beautiful now, because I have always known real beauty TRULY does come from within. Women who paint themselves are putting on a false facade and are only being vain, only they are SO conditioned, they don’t know it! True beauty IS and should be within you, and you should really know that! So, women who are saying I just put on makeup n stuff just to please myself, and the woman who said if I’m in forest looking at my refelction, I will add makeup, because what God gave me isn’t good enough, and (because I’m just SO terribly vain!!)sadly, she will never feel true beauty or know even what that means.
Real (decent) men ARE attracted to our natural beauty. We really can’t think for a moment we are arrogant enough to think we can improve on what God has given us, and wise men see real beauty! Women who feel true beauty (beauty is as beauty does) are genuine, happy, and have way more to give others!!

Gingee
wrote on January 25 2010 @ 12:09 pm: [report]

For whose gods are you presuming to speak?

ChoJinn
wrote on January 29 2010 @ 01:44 am: [report]

Everyone hates cosmetic surgery?  Men don’t like women who smell nice?  One must be a pig-ignorant slimeball to appreciate an even, healthy tan?  Makeup is for Robert Smith and he only?  Men can’t recognize a name brand, or even the flattering style they often provide the wearer?

As someone has mentioned before, P. Dotree is indeed either a 13 year old boy, or a shrew of a woman, who most definitely does not speak for the better part of the male gender.

Filed Out Of: Guys

Romulus
wrote on January 29 2010 @ 08:36 am: [report]

Perfume is a tool that creates very primal memory associations.  I knew a woman once who wore a light perfume every time she knew we were going to make love.  Before long, every time I smelled that scent, I was ready.  I loved it.

Just don’t overdo it.  A little dab will do you.  No guy likes a girl he can smell three feet away.  Make him get close to pick up the scent.

camelo27
wrote on January 29 2010 @ 10:51 am: [report]

I think that the majority of women do these things to impress other women. I tend to wear less perfume, makeup, and designer clothes when I go out with a guy than with girls. If I’m having a girls night out, I often wear makeup. If I’m going out with my boyfriend I usually don’t because it ends up rubbing off on him, moving all over my face when I sweat from dancing or having sex, and then I fall asleep cuddling with him and wake up a mess. Plus if I put on lipstick or lipgloss, I get one little peck on the lips and that’s it because my boyfriend doesn’t like when his mouth ends up shiny and pink.

Kiki T
wrote on January 29 2010 @ 10:58 am: [report]

those are the same things I would hate a guy to do to. the title of this piece is, “hey everyone, stop doing these things…”

Art M.
wrote on January 29 2010 @ 11:15 am: [report]

“Everyone hates cosmetic surgery?”

No, it just that a LOT of cosmetic surgery looks artificial, does not improve looks, and/or is dangerous.

“Men don’t like women who smell nice?”

We do, and that is the point.  Heavy perfume smells hideous. Modest perfume might be ok if it happens to be a scent that you like.

“One must be a pig-ignorant slimeball to appreciate an even, healthy tan?”

Healthy occasional tan is nice.  Constant tan turns skin tough like shoe-leather.  Fake tans look orange.

“Makeup is for Robert Smith and he only?”

Women have a natural beauty, a natural delicacy, that is hidden by makeup.  Besides, do you really want to kiss goopy red lips?

“Men can’t recognize a name brand, or even the flattering style they often provide the wearer?”

Style is great, regardless of brand name.  Brand name is no guarentee.  I think that most of us have at least one female friend who is AMAZING with clothing while making a game out of mainly shopping at Target or 2nd hand stores.

“As someone has mentioned before, P. Dotree is indeed either a 13 year old boy, or a shrew of a woman, who most definitely does not speak for the better part of the male gender.”

I am male, love women, and I think that P. Dotree is making URGENTLY needed points, though I might scale back the rhetoric a bit.

The bottom line for me - maybe NOT for you - is that there is a billion dollar make-up, nail care, and clothing industry absolutely dedicated to taking women that are naturally beautiful and making them look like unattractive clowns.

I strongly suspect that this industry is dominated by people that are not romantically attracted to women.  They see women as blank canvas for their art work, rather than human beings.

Yodar Critch
wrote on January 29 2010 @ 01:01 pm: [report]

“They see women as blank canvas for their art work, rather than human beings.”

I think all the industry sees is dollar signs.

First they create the myth that women need this artificial stuff, and then they provide it…. for a price.

I don’t think the industry cares about women as individuals, only as a source of money.

ash24
wrote on January 29 2010 @ 01:19 pm: [report]

Here we go again-Phil takes HIS opinion and makes it EVERY guy’s opinion.

Sorry Phil, but I do those things for myself, not my boyfriend.  And aside from that, my boyfriend likes the perfume, the dressy clothes, the tanned skin…

Who says we do all this for you?

ChoJinn
wrote on January 29 2010 @ 02:35 pm: [report]

Wow, melodrama.  P. Dotty’s generalizations, and many of the responses, seem to be lost on you, Art.  No person suggests any of these things - or anything at all, for that matter - taken to the extreme is attractive, however this article fails to qualify that.

Again, P. Dotty speaks for himself.  Everything in moderation, ladies.

mrrt4u
wrote on January 30 2010 @ 08:58 am: [report]

There are several things women do to please men and please other women to feel and be “accepted/desirable”.
I feel perfume is a hit and miss proposition. There is no one fragrances that will appeal to all men whether you spend just a few bucks or spend in the hundreds or thousands. So with that in mind, moderation is the key or simply asks your love desire what he likes. Women must understand, most men will say your perfume smells good; you look good, or give other compliments to start off impressing you. So don’t believe every compliment you hear from a man. Sincere compliments usually come from friends and family who are not trying to get in your pants.  All surveys I every read from men indicate they prefer a women have a nice body, nice natural styled hair (fake hair looks good to the other women but feel horrible to men when they touch it). Healthy, natural looking teeth, skin and eyes are also a focus point.  Now if surgery can create some of these results and you can afford it, then go for it.  There are good and bad fake boob jobs. The more they can look natural the more they are a good alternative. They must hang a little, not be too hard and not reduce the sensitivity of the woman’s nipples. I am for going to a dermatologist or a plastic surgeon over spending thousands of dollars on make-up in a life time. Most men like athletic women with small waist and stomachs not matter what your body frame is. So take up an active sport or hit the gym instead of trying to find that perfect diet or diet pill to do all the work. Just concentrate on eating healthy not on your portions will have better results.

PGell
wrote on January 30 2010 @ 10:54 am: [report]

Yeah, men claimthey don’t “care” if you wear make up and they they like “a natural girl.” But, forbid you go without it ONCE. “Are you sick?” “Are you having your period? You look like hell.” “What’s wrong? Your face looks like you were crying.”

Yes, too much perfume is gross. But a small amount of your “signature scent” will give him something to think about, and he may not even know why.

MsTriste
wrote on January 31 2010 @ 01:07 pm: [report]

Amazing how all the denialists are women.  The author is trying to TELL you that spending money on perfume, tanning, clothes etc. is a waste because men don’t notice those things.  Listen to him. 

There may be some men who do like those things (in Orange County, it would seem) but I would rather attract a man who didn’t pay attention to the things I buy to put in/on my body, but looked inside to the person I am.  No money required.

I am clueless when it comes to makeup and clothes, and don’t do any of the things the author listed, and have had great luck with men.  My husband loves my real breasts and doesn’t care what I wear.  Although he DOES let me know by leering at me when an outfit is flattering to my ass…

angel001717
wrote on February 4 2010 @ 03:10 pm: [report]

Perfume is… one of my loves. Don’t speak to me about it not being important. psh, its awesome. (love memory association with certain scents)

i look best with a little tan. its not good for me, but i do look best in summer. in winter i just deal with it. a little more blush and darker hair usually helps.

dont care about name brands. actually, i have strong opinions about wearing the exact same outfits as everyone else. i believe in style, not boastful crap.

makeup is fun. my approach is much more casual now, but playing with it is FUN. ive embraced simplicity though.

ugh. no need. lets just accept ourselves.