Ashley Graham And Amy Schumer Have Different Ideas About The “Plus-Size” Label

Both Amy Schumer and Ashley Graham are making paper by openly talking about their curves, but that doesn’t mean they’re on the same page about it. In fact, Graham and Schumer don’t agree about using the term “plus-size”, and, guess what, that’s totally OK. Graham appeared on the August cover of Cosmopolitan, and in her interview, criticized Schumer for not wanting to be called “plus-size,” yet using her size in her comedy.

Back up: a few months ago, Glamour included Schumer in their plus-size issue, which was meant to celebrate larger sizes. Schumer quickly responded on Instagram, writing: “I think there’s nothing wrong with being plus size. Beautiful healthy women. Plus size is considered size 16 in America. I go between a size 6 and an 8. @glamourmag put me in their plus size only issue without asking or letting me know and it doesn’t feel right to me. Young girls seeing my body type thinking that is plus size? What are your thoughts? Mine are not cool glamour not glamourous.”

This week, Graham’s Cosmopolitan cover story was released, and Graham took issue with Schumer’s comments, saying, “You thrive on being a big girl, but when you’re grouped in with us, you’re not happy about it? That, to me, felt like a double standard.” She added that she can see both sides, but that Schumer “talks about being a big girl in the industry.” Graham was sort of saying that you can’t have it both ways.

Schumer responded on Twitter that she doesn’t group herself in with Graham only because the model’s extremely beautiful. Graham then replied that she had nothing but respect for Schumer, writing, “So glad to be able to exchange thoughts, ideas & opinions w/ another incredible female force.”

Um, that’s not how Twitter works, ladies. You’re supposed to be insulting each other so we can all write and read about it. This is too kind. And overall positive.

I see Schumer’s point: a size six or eight is not plus-size and I don’t see how it does any good to classify someone that size as such. But maybe we just shouldn’t classify anyone as plus-size at all. Graham even said in her cover story that she calls herself a “model” and not a “plus size model.” Because there isn’t any need to separate and classify women’s bodies like that, and that’s what both Graham and Schumer are working for.

What’s even better than their body-positive messages is the civil, very chill way they handled the media almost trying to pit them against each other. Fake feuds among women are all too common, and that’s just as degrading as someone making judgements about a women for her body type. So kudos to both women for keeping it professional.